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re: Alabama At Full Health

Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:23 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 8:23 am to
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Then we can agree that game planning and team chemistry factors in but nothing else, such as production.
No, I think anything that can negatively impact expected production (which planning and chemistry do) is up for discussion. Expected production is at the heart of this entire discussion.

The reason why WR injuries have been such a topic of discussion for the last 8 months is because fans believe that the loss of those players negatively impacted production, and thus, the outcome of the game. There would be no point to mention it otherwise. Likewise, players that were expected to play for UGA that were unavailable to provide the production expected of them could likewise be included in the discussion.

You are making an arbitrary distinction between players missing for their own fault compared to players missing who were not at fault, as if the reason matters for the rest of the team and the outcome of the games. The lack of expected production is the material point, given the timing of the absences, not the reason for the absences.

Take the recent and increasing trend of players sitting out of bowl games so that they don’t risk injury for the draft as another example. They are opting out on purpose, yet their lack of expected production can and does affect the team chemistry and preparation, which certainly can influence the outcome of the game. Opt-outs are used as excuses for losses and near losses regularly, because the reason for their absence doesn’t matter but their lost expected production does.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:53 pm to
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No, I think anything that can negatively impact expected production (which planning and chemistry do) is up for discussion. Expected production is at the heart of this entire discussion.


You keep saying expected production when expectations of any production end when a player is no longer available. I agree that production is the most important thing. The game planning/chemistry thing is negligible. You're the first to mention it, but it would add greatly to my argument since Bama lost more players and lost most of them with less time to prepare, some in the games themselves.

Players who sit out are blamed for losses. Players who are injured aren't blamed. One is a choice and the other isn't. In one case they blame the player and in the other they blame the misfortune of the injury. So, saying the reason for their absence doesn't matter is obviously incorrect.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33141 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 5:33 am to
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You are making an arbitrary distinction between players missing for their own fault compared to players missing who were not at fault, as if the reason matters for the rest of the team and the outcome of the games.


So what you are saying is that the reason matters NOT, but the irrational mental gymnast just cant figure it out.

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