re: Jimbo Fisher is building an FSU-like champion at Texas A&M.

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None of that means Jimbo will win a Natty at A&M but it is amazing the lengths folks go to to act as though he is a crap coach that has never won anything and will never win anything by brushing off all of his accomplishments.

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The thing is aTm fans tout his accomplishments but don't seem willing to put them in context. At FSU in six seasons without Jameis, he lost fewer than 3 games ONCE (12-2 in 2012). He also cratered them in 2017. It may well have been because of his personal life situation, but it still happened.

Since coming to aTm he's had ONE season with fewer than four losses despite having recruiting classes ranked (by 247 in the conference) 6th (2018), 3rd (2019), 4th (2020), 4th (2021).

Is he a terrible coach? No. He puts a solid, consistent product on the field but he's been a head coach at high profile P5 programs for 12 years now. By their 12th seasons at P5 programs Saban and Dabo had both won 2 titles and Urban had won 3. Even more telling, in their 12th years at P5 schools Saban won a national title and both Dabo and Urban won conference titles. They were performing at the highest levels of their careers.

Jimbo's national title was in 2013 and he hasn't won a conference title since 2014.

When blessed with an exceptional QB, he's good enough to exploit that talent but there's no evidence that he's got the ability to rise from just solid consistency to being a perennial contender.