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re: 2017 Football Recruiting Thread ["N$D Bryant" Edition]
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:23 am to BowlJackson
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:23 am to BowlJackson
We typically swing and miss on our top rated guy and often the #2.
The last time we got our top rated guy with Gus was 4* Kyle Frazier.
The last time we got our top rated guy with Gus was 4* Kyle Frazier.
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:03 am to GenesChin
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We typically swing and miss on our top rated guy and often the #2.
The last time we got our top rated guy with Gus was 4* Kyle Frazier.
Very rarely do teams get their top QB choices just like most teams struggle to get top guys at any position on their board because that guy is usually top of lots of boards. Heck Mond wasn't the top guy on Aggie's board until they lost Martell. It sucks for sure to miss out on both Narcisse & Mond but that doesn't all of a sudden mean Gus can't recruit QBs. Still a long way to NSD as well. Both guys mentioned above have already flipped once.
If AU starts producing on field again we will be fine. If we don't then we have bigger problems anyway
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:14 am to TigerPaw1
I'm not saying Gus cannot recruit QB's. I'm saying he's fricking horrible at recruiting HS QB's.
Frazier is his claim to fame for recruiting HS QB's.
Queen was an underwhelming recruit.
Sean was elite 11 MVP but is also a 1TD machine... Malzahn the Magnificent
JJ... lol
Woody Barrett..... Gus wanted him so I can only imagine how much he is going to suck.
Frazier is his claim to fame for recruiting HS QB's.
Queen was an underwhelming recruit.
Sean was elite 11 MVP but is also a 1TD machine... Malzahn the Magnificent
JJ... lol
Woody Barrett..... Gus wanted him so I can only imagine how much he is going to suck.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:19 am to jangalang
The sean white/Tyler Queen in back to back years makes no sense considering Gus's system.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:22 am to AuburnCPA
No it didn't make any sense at all. At first, I thought he would change the offense for SW, but then I saw SW running the same high school offense that Marshall ran.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:29 am to jangalang
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Sean was elite 11 MVP but is also a 1TD machine.
Based on his freshman season where he played 5 games with handcuffs on and the play calling went full retard every time he sniffed the endzone?
GTFO
Auburn fans are so embarrassingly stupid sometimes it's hard defend you idiots with the shite some of you come up with
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:32 am to BowlJackson
Well God damn SW almost threw three picks in the red zone against Moo State. Maybe there was a reason why he was handcuffed.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:37 am to jangalang
Yeah probably because Rhett Lashlee is as fricktarded with redzone play calling as jangalang is with everything in life
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:39 am to jangalang
quote:same as in a shotgun, run-first, play action offense? did you think we'd go to the single-back set? or run the power-i?
At first, I thought he would change the offense for SW, but then I saw SW running the same high school offense that Marshall ran.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:43 am to BowlJackson
That third grade shite was retarded but I'm going let it go. Lube up though. Rhett Lashlee will soon be the QB coach to Tray Bishop or some other scrub that can't throw it worth a flip.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:44 am to jangalang
quote:so in Sean's first game ever in college, he threw a pick in the red zone and ALMOST threw more? How has he not been run out of town? How dare he put on that Auburn jersey.
Well God damn SW almost threw three picks in the red zone against Moo State. Maybe there was a reason why he was handcuffed.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:46 am to joeyb147
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same as in a shotgun, run-first, play action offense? did you think we'd go to the single-back set? or run the power-i?
I thought we would run less zone read with SW and use more routes that actually looked more advanced than routes from a junior high playbook.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 10:47 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:47 am to BowlJackson
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Based on his freshman season
*RS Freshman/ Sophomore / Been in the system 2 years season
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:47 am to jangalang
SW wasn't given much of a chance to do anything else in that game. Let me recap for you Rhett's redzone play calling vs MSU for you. Now, I wasn't in the huddle but trust me, this is how it went:
"Alright bud, fake the handoff, the WR is just gonna run across the endzone until he's open. Remember, KEEP YOUR EYES ON HIM so you know right when he's open. Check downs? You don't need no stinking check downs, trust me this'll work!"
"shite, how'd they know that was coming?!??! He really is Merlins!!"
"Alright bud, fake the handoff, the WR is just gonna run across the endzone until he's open. Remember, KEEP YOUR EYES ON HIM so you know right when he's open. Check downs? You don't need no stinking check downs, trust me this'll work!"
"shite, how'd they know that was coming?!??! He really is Merlins!!"
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:48 am to BowlJackson
Alright dudes... I enjoy the SW/playcalling debate as much as the next guy but let's not debate it here.
Make a thread and go there with it
ETA: I even RA'd myself
Make a thread and go there with it
ETA: I even RA'd myself
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:49 am to jangalang
quote:we did... by a lot... unless you think every hand-off to a rb out of the shotgun is a zone-read... in which case i'm wondering how you think the qb is supposed to hand the ball off to the rb in the shotgun on a non-called zone-read play
I thought we would run less zone read with SW
just because the qb carries out the zone-read fake doesn't mean that it wasn't a pure rb running play...
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:50 am to ChexMix
Defend Sean all you want and claim RL was the problem. Still, Lashlee is still here and Sean will still be throwing for him. Sean started enough football games to throw more than one TD pass.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:55 am to jangalang
Alright, Jones has spoken. Since Tray Bishop is probably next in line to be our QBrecruit, and we have no QB coach, I secretly hope we start running a quadruple option offense.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:07 am to jangalang
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I'm not saying Gus cannot recruit QB's. I'm saying he's fricking horrible at recruiting HS QB's.
I think you are yelling about the wrong thing. We have consistently landed 4*, highly touted HS QBs under Gus. Guys that people not looking through orange & blue glasses all thought would be great. So no he's not fricking horrible at recruiting HS QBs
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Frazier is his claim to fame for recruiting HS QB's.
Why?
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Queen was an underwhelming recruit.
Queen was lowest rated QB recruit we have signed with Gus & I agree with not knowing why he was the choice. He had a great junior season but a terrible senior one
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Sean was elite 11 MVP but is also a 1TD machine... Malzahn the Magnificent
But how does that make him a bad HS recruit? He was literally ranked #1 among top HS recruits in a camp designed to evaluate HS QBs. Again this is development more than recruiting and hard to say he is a bust yet considering he played like half a season so far.
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JJ... lol
4* QB recruit that was Mr Football in Alabama. Again looks like bad development
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Woody Barrett..... Gus wanted him so I can only imagine how much he is going to suck.
Now you are just melting
There is an argument to be made Gus has not done a great job of developing his own QBs once they have landed on campus. Like Jones said earlier though it ain't all that easy but yes we have not gotten great production from HS QBs under Gus. But to say he sucks at recruiting QBs is dumb. He has consistently brought in guys that are considered talented. Recruiting vs development is different. Gus has shown he can go out and bring in talent the question is if that talent is raw can he develop it to work in our system. So far that answer has been no
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:22 am to TigerPaw1
There are later posts that reflect my frustrations with our QB development as well. Unfortunately our problems don't stop after QB recruitment. As said before, there could problems that start at the top and trickles down to various aspects of our offense such as playcalling, player personnel, depth charts, coaching rosters, etc ...and each may have had a negative impact on SW and our quarterbacks.
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