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Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by playmakers in space
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:20 pm to
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In terms of not being fair to the rest of the rotation, the Braves are behind Washington, Mets


You're not even making sense at this point. If you honestly believe the Braves rotation is behind the Mets and Nats, you don't know what you're talking about. You think a rotation of Mackenzie Gore, Jake Irvin, Mitch Parker, Trevor Williams, and the corpse of Mike Soroka is better than what the Braves have? Or Kodai Senga, Sean Manaea, Frankie Montas, Clay Holmes, and Paul Blackburn? Why is it that the Braves injury concerns are what's gonna sink them in your mind, but Kodai Senga coming off a major injury last season and Clay Holmes never being a big league starter isn't a problem? Only the Dodgers, Phillies, and maybe the Diamondbacks have better on paper rotations than the Braves in the NL at this point. This is not my opinion, either, look at the projections on fangraphs or baseball site that does projections. Looking at last year's ERA and pitcher wins isn't going to tell you anything.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:03 pm to
Do you even read the words you type? lol I don’t think I have met a bigger homer in my life when it comes to the Braves. You were the one telling me that I was underselling the rest of the Braves rotation and pointed out the stats from last season simply don’t point to that. ERA and wins don’t tell you anything?? Let me guess, in the era of analytics you are going to bring up some goofy projections that mean absolutely nothing. You keep believing this rotation is built for the postseason and we will revisit this thread in October when the Braves are eliminated if they make them at all.
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1567 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:43 pm to
What part of last year's ERA are you looking at then, champ? Last year's staff had a significantly better team ERA than the Mets or Nationals and neither of those teams has dramatically improved their rotations. In fact the Braves led baseball in team ERA last season and were also #1 in SP WAR. They return 3 of the top 4 guys from that staff and add Strider, who was arguably the most dominant pitcher in baseball before he got hurt.

If anyone has reading comprehension issues it's you, because you don't actually address anything I say, you just bitch and moan about the Braves not doing anything this offseason and their shortcomings in the postseason, which, hilariously, has been mostly due to the offense doing jack shite. The two games they lost to the Padres last season were 4-0 and 5-4, that has frick all to do with the rotation. You're not winning many games or series when your lineup isn't hitting.

Not being a sky is falling whiny pussbag like you doesn't make me a homer. I don't even know what "built for the postseason" is supposed to mean. Was the rotation "built for the postseason" in 2021 with many of the same guys that were on the last two years' teams? Were the 90s rotations with 3 HOF pitchers "built for the postseason"? Postseason baseball has a lot of randomness to it because they're short series, you need your roster to stay healthy and guys to get hot, and the Braves haven't done that lately.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 4:11 pm to
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There is absolutely no guarantee that Strider will be anywhere near his old self after that kind of injury

Strider didn't re-tear his UCL and didn't have TJS. he had bone spurs floating right around the ligament (hence the velo drop) so he had those cleaned out and had an internal brace put in around his UCL to protect it in the future.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 4:17 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 4:12 pm to
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In terms of not being fair to the rest of the rotation, the Braves are behind Washington

Jesus
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 4:23 pm to
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the corpse of Mike Soroka

This makes me sad.
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1567 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:00 pm to
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This makes me sad.


Same here. The guy was my favorite player to follow coming up through the minors and when he killed it his first season, I thought he was gonna be the next great pitcher for the Braves. I didn't mean that to sound so harsh, I just don't think he's ever going to be the same pitcher that he was. His new mechanics cause his fastball to be way too hittable and really only his slider is a plus pitch anymore. He might be able to make it as a reliever like that, but as a starter it's going to be very tough. Achilles injuries are brutal.
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