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Atlanta United signs Pity Martinez

Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:00 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:00 am
Just a month and a half after winning the MLS Cup, Atlanta announces that they have signed the player of the year in the Americas, Gonzalo "Pity" Martinez, to a long-term contract.

Recently helped River Plate win the Copa Libertadores and competed in the Club World Cup.

Five stripes don't stop.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51809 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:01 am to
Time to go troll some orlando fans.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:10 am to
Arthur spending that money before his wife takes it. Love it.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:12 am to
It was actually a steal. We somehow got him for only around $12m (although there many be a high sell-on clause attached to it).
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 10:54 am to
He's only the second South American player of the year to sign with am MLS team. The other was Carlos Valderrama and he didn't come to MLS until he was 34. Pity is 25.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:52 am to
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Time to go troll some orlando fans.


Their spirits have to be complete dogshit.

But at least they have a dedicated stadium!
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 11:53 am
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13285 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:33 pm to
I'm not totally sure how all of the roster limits work, but I'm assuming that this raises the odds of Almiron getting sold to a European club from 99% to 100%?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:45 pm to
Unless there's a loophole that no one knows about, one of the current DPs have to leave. If it's true that someone has put in a £20m bid for Almiron, then we should accept it.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51809 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:50 pm to
Don't want to lose Miggy.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 1:02 pm to
Me either, but Pity is better than Almiron.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Time to go troll some orlando fans.


Where at they seem like a very trollable fan base.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13285 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Don't want to lose Miggy.


It looks like we just sold Miggy to Newcastle for $27 million. I think we originally obtained him for $8 million. Not a bad ROI for Arthur.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51809 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:43 pm to
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It looks like we just sold Miggy to Newcastle for $27 million. I think we originally obtained him for $8 million. Not a bad ROI for Arthur.


Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:52 pm to
I think we will be able to get about $22m of that.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13285 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:11 pm to
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I think we will be able to get about $22m of that.


I have no clue how any of this works. The whole club soccer roster thing and how you can move players between the various leagues is completely foreign to me. Who gets the other $5mil?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:32 pm to
There's two possible things that I can think of that would prevent Atlanta from keeping all $27m.

1. MLS has an outgoing transfer rule that applies in this case. From what I can tell, this rule is unique to MLS and uses the "rising tide lifts all boats" idea. Here's the current MLS roster rules: LINK

In Almiron's case, he's a Designated Player, we are are specifically referring to this paragraph:
quote:

If a Designated Player is transferred or loaned, the club will receive all amounts of the transfer or loan fee revenue until it has recouped all out-of-pocket cash payments made by the club in connection to that player prior to any sharing arrangement with the League. After such recoup, the transfer or loan of the Designated Player shall be treated as any other transfer with the club receiving three quarters (3/4) of the corresponding transfer or loan fee revenue.

This means that Atlanta will get 100% of the ~$8.7m they paid Lanús to get him in the first place, and then Atlanta keeps 75% of the remaining $18.3m. 25% of that $18.3m goes to the league.

2. Sell-on clause. Quite often when a club sells a player, they put a sell-on clause in the contract.

For example: FC Dallas just sold 18 year old Chris Richards to Bayern Munich for $1.5m. However, it's been reported that a 40% sell-on clause was put in the contract. That means if Bayern Munich sells Richards in the future, then FC Dallas will receive 40% of that future transfer fee. If Bayern sells Richards to Dortmund for $20m, Bayern will have to give Dallas an extra $8m.

Rarely will you see a clause of 40%, but I wouldn't be shocked if Almiron has one between 5-15%. Now I've looked, but I have been unable to find any evidence of a sell-on clause where Atlanta would have to pay Lanús a bit of this transfer fee but that doesn't mean there isn't one.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 7:35 pm
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21520 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:31 pm to
thanks for the explanation
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