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re: Why are non basketball fans trying to convince everyone we'll be terrible?

Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:46 am to
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Why? This board has continually proven information such as this fall on deaf ears.


Information as this? The only information you think you have is a sunshine pumping, low expectation, Mike Anderson guilter opinion. You know about as much about the talent of this team as a blind squirrel.

The fact is, this is Mike Anderson's 5th year, he only has one NCAA tournament win, this years roster has maybe 1 primetime player, and next year is based on 1 Superstar that might not even give Arkansas the time of day.

He has FAILED, and continues to fail. His future at Arkansas is in the hands of a kid in Bentonville.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:52 am to
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He has FAILED


Just had our best season in two DECADES, dipshit.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:54 am to
expectations, son



raise them
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:57 am to
If something happened and Mike could no longer coach (health issues, death, whatever), do you think another coach would look at Arkansas' roster and say, "I can step right in and win with these guys?"

People's predictions as to this season aren't fricking racists, you tools and your broken record. They're simply seeing a lack of experience and a lack of scoring. OBVIOUSLY, this season COULD bring about the emergence of Moses and Bell. Dusty could be Kyle Korver part deux. Jimmy Whit the reincarnation of DWade. Those things COULD happen.

But it's HARDLY laughable to anyone outside the program, using the objective information we KNOW about returning experience/talent, that we may have a bad year.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:58 am to
Ok, you say Mike has failed and we should raise expectations.

What should Mike have already accomplished here, in your opinion?
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:00 am to
more than one win over Wofford being his biggest accomplishment at Arkansas in 4 years and year 5, not making any postseason.
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:03 am to
Specifically, what should he have already accomplished?

Besides the tournament win you keep bringing up.
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:10 am to
Up to this season, I think most people would agree that Mike's been turning the program around. We've been seeing that gradual progression in the win-loss column, too. But in his 5th year, I don't think people are enthralled with the idea that he might not even make the NIT.

* We very well could make the NCAAT. Just don't think that's very likely (that would require numerous, previously unproven players to improve significantly and the freshmen will hit the ground running).
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:15 am to
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I think most people would agree that Mike's been turning the program around.


So he needed 4 years to turn the program around, but now in year 5 we may have the worst team yet, with 2017 being his new rebuilding year.

wash rinse repeat
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:16 am to
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I think most people would agree that Mike's been turning the program around.


He had to rebuild the program from scratch. We have improved every year since he's been here.

It's not possible to improve every single year. All teams have down years. It's ridiculous that people want to fire Mike because he MIGHT have a bad year after we just had our best season in decades.

This stuff about year 5 is bogus too. It's just another thing for the trolls to nitpick about, when it doesn't mean jack shite. In what year SHOULD a coach lose his best players and have three others arrested for counterfeiting? Is that a year 3 thing?
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:20 am to
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have three others arrested for counterfeiting?


you recruit your own problems ~ Bert
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:26 am to
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It's ridiculous that people want to fire Mike because he MIGHT have a bad year after we just had our best season in decades.


There's a difference between saying we'll be terrible and saying MA should be fired right now.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:31 am to
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He had to rebuild the program from scratch. We have improved every year since he's been here. 

It's not possible to improve every single year. All teams have down years. It's ridiculous that people want to fire Mike because he MIGHT have a bad year after we just had our best season in decades. 

This stuff about year 5 is bogus too. It's just another thing for the trolls to nitpick about, when it doesn't mean jack shite. In what year SHOULD a coach lose his best players and have three others arrested for counterfeiting? Is that a year 3 thing?

Agree with all this
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:46 am to
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He had to rebuild the program from scratch. We have improved every year since he's been here.



Thanks for echoing my sentiment.

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It's not possible to improve every single year. All teams have down years. It's ridiculous that people want to fire Mike because he MIGHT have a bad year after we just had our best season in decades.


Right, because at a certain point there's not much room for significant improvement. I think what most people here are (rightfully) worried about is taking a step back. It's great that he got us to that NCAAT win, but if we took a significant step back then we're just going in circles.

Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:52 am to
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I think what most people here are (rightfully) worried about is taking a step back.


Having one bad year isn't going to ruin the program.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:45 pm to
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It's ridiculous that people want to fire Mike because he MIGHT have a bad year after we just had our best season in decades


I would argue that Pelphrey's first season as HC was better than any of the four seasons we've experienced with Mike so far.

They both finished 2nd in the West, but Pelphrey's team only finished 3 games out of 1st instead of six games like Mike's team.

Mike's team had more overall wins and they both made the NCAA tournament, winning their first round game, but Pel's team beat an 8th seeded historical powerhouse Indiana team whereas Mike's team with the third best player to ever come out of Arkansas could only manage a win over 12th seed Wofford.

I'd take Pel's season and a win over Indiana vs a few more regular season wins and an underwhelming victory over Wofford.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:57 pm to
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Having one bad year isn't going to ruin the program.


Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:10 pm to
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I would argue that Pelphrey's first season as HC was better than any of the four seasons we've experienced with Mike so far.


It wasn't.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:10 pm to
We only have four front court players listed on the roster.

FOUR!

The good thing is that they are all upperclassmen with at least one year of experience playing college ball somewhere.

There's no freshmen because Mike couldn't recruit a single front court freshman player in last year's class. Completely unforgiveable.

Those four players have a combined points per game average of 2.3 points.

The unstoppable scoring machine of that group is Willie Kouassi with a per game average of 4.6 in an inferior league.

The backcourt should be average to above average SEC level even if Beard doesn't come back.

If MA finishes above .500 he should be named Coach of the Year, simultaneously with Worst Recruiter in Arkansas history.

This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by PygmalionEffect
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:11 pm to
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It wasn't.


To you it wasn't.

To me it was.

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