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The Lou Holtz Curse

Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:02 pm
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:02 pm
Have we had a truly spectacular coach since Lou Holtz? I mean, look at our history. I’m not going through a lifetime of coaches to prove a point, but maybe we do have history with a mediocre program. I was just on campus touring with my daughter, and it seams everything has changed, save the 8 wins and we’re happy culture.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:09 pm to
If Holtz was spectacular, was Hatfield almost spectacular?

While Frank was here, we never had any coach that wouldn't let Frank Broyles be heavily involved in the football program. That was the primary factor in determining who was coach.

That's why we never got Jimmy Johnson. That's why we got saddled with Nutt for years and years. Kissing JFB's arse was always the number one criteria.

Jerry Jones runs the Cowboys under the same model, and that's why the Cowboys have been underachievers for most of the time he has owned them.

Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32877 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:26 pm to
The curse started in '69
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:30 pm to
As a 25 year old I think Hatfield gets sold short. Back to back conference titles isn't easy.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19101 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Jerry Jones runs the Cowboys under the same model, and that's why the Cowboys have been underachievers for most of the time he has owned them.


That is a fact.

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

That is a fact.


Jerry Jones drama queen arse being interviewed after a tough loss about "having been in an emotional locker room" and needing to go "be with the team right now".....

Motherfricker, you are an owner, not a coach.

NOT A COACH.

He's always putting himself front and center, the most well-known NFL owner in the country.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25156 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:38 am to
quote:

If Holtz was spectacular, was Hatfield almost spectacular?



Hatfield actually had a better winning percentage while he was here.

Broyles did a lot of great things here but he was terrible at micromanaging coaches in sports he cared about. Its why Holtz "retired", Hatfield left for Clemson sight unseen, Sutton said he would have crawled to Lexington, and Nolan hating Broyles so much he practically begged to be fired.

On the other hand, other than assuring that we would have the best facilities in the world Broyles didn't give a fig about track. Which let McConnell thrive here.

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