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re: So, bad year for a coaching search.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:33 am to BoarEd
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:33 am to BoarEd
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Hell, let's use Tennessee for example, considering they're the "premier program" you are pointing to who is clearly gonna frick us out of a good coach.
Did I say that? I don't think so. What I've been saying from the beginning is that if there are some good coaches out there, the fact that Florida, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Nebraska, Kansas, aTm, LSU, and Auburn may be out there looking for a good coach along with us, can't be a good thing.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:34 am to troyt37
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Maybe that's the problem. I don't put much stock in that statement.
You do you, baw.
All I know is that these schools are going to pursue coaches that have experience recruiting in the regions they need to recruit in order to be successful. I mean, we didn't do that last time and look what happened. The Bielema hire was a bad hire for a few reasons, but the biggest thing that sticks out in my mind is that he burned our Texas recruiting bridges.
I guaran-frickin-tee you that the coach we pursue next will have Texas ties.
Tennessee for instance, doesn't need to rely on Texas ties and in fact, would do better recruiting Florida due to proximity.
If they're wise they will hire a good coach with established recruiting ties in the Atlanta area, extending down into Florida.
You don't have to believe it, but you'll see soon enough.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:09 pm to troyt37
I know some people here believe recruiting ties don't matter because of Twitter. I disagree. Smith would not have near the success he has been having if he wasn't from new Orleans and know the coaches that area. He can relate to those kids, and those coaches down there like him. That helps.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:12 pm to BoarEd
The post above me is 100% the truth.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:24 pm to russellvillehog
I'm not disagreeing with any of that, I'm just saying that anything that makes a particular candidate attractive to Arkansas has to make that candidate attractive to Florida, Tennessee and anyone else. To think otherwise is stupid.
I mean, nobody really believes that Tennessee or Florida would disqualify Chad Morris because he has recruiting ties in Texas rather than Florida or Atlanta, do they?
I mean, nobody really believes that Tennessee or Florida would disqualify Chad Morris because he has recruiting ties in Texas rather than Florida or Atlanta, do they?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:26 pm to troyt37
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I'm just saying that anything that makes a particular candidate attractive to Arkansas has to make that candidate attractive to Florida, Tennessee and anyone else. To think otherwise is stupid.
I agree, and to argue otherwise is just dumb
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:37 pm to troyt37
Florida is eyeballing Dino Babers. East Coast guy.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:53 pm to BoarEd
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Florida is eyeballing Dino Babers. East Coast guy.
Right, and so who is Syracuse eyeballing? There is an element of musical chairs and the butterfly effect when it comes to coaching changes, and the more heavy hitters you have playing the game, the easier it is to be caught without a seat (or a shitty coach) when the music stops.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 12:54 pm to troyt37
Do you honestly think Syracuse is gonna steal a coach from Arkansas?
This is silly, baw.
This is silly, baw.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:09 pm to BoarEd
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Do you honestly think Syracuse is gonna steal a coach from Arkansas?
No, I don't, baw. I think some people are getting some of what I'm saying, and some aren't trying.
The bottom line is there is no universe where it is to our advantage that more big programs are out looking for coaches, rather than fewer. We knew there was Tennessee. Florida represents more. Ole Miss does too, but to a much lesser extent, like Nebraska, and maybe Iowa State, depending on if someone picks up Campbell. Texas A&M would represent much more. So would LSU or Auburn depending on what happens there.
There are a lot of shoes to drop here, and the truth is that there isn't a single coach we could possibly be interested in that wouldn't have an opportunity at a better program than Arkansas. I'm sorry if that isn't homerish enough for some of you, but it's reality to me.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:15 pm to troyt37
Go through every one of those schools and look at their balance sheets.
What I'm saying, beyond the "farcical idea that coaching carousel is some sort of fantasy draft", is that Arkansas isn't nearly as hopeless as you may think. Arkansas can throw a lot of money around. More than most, in fact.
And you would be foolish to think that the bottom line isn't money.
Shall we call recent history of coaching hires into question here? NFL head coach left mid season to come here. A damn good one too.
The sky isn't falling, dude. stop trying to tell everyone it is
What I'm saying, beyond the "farcical idea that coaching carousel is some sort of fantasy draft", is that Arkansas isn't nearly as hopeless as you may think. Arkansas can throw a lot of money around. More than most, in fact.
And you would be foolish to think that the bottom line isn't money.
Shall we call recent history of coaching hires into question here? NFL head coach left mid season to come here. A damn good one too.
The sky isn't falling, dude. stop trying to tell everyone it is
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:20 pm to BoarEd
You and pigfeet should just go ahead and proclaim yourselves the very first dark siders for the next coach Arkansas hires.
Because Tennessee is looking for a coach too.
Because Tennessee is looking for a coach too.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:27 pm to BoarEd
Can we at least agree on closeting the word "Baw" and nail the door shut. I feel like I'm reading an episode of Jersey Shores.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:27 pm to BoarEd
Holy hell. Whatever. Yes everything is fine. It won't make a difference if Tennessee, Florida, Ole Miss, maybe Mississippi State (if Mullens goes to Florida), Texas A&M, SMU, Nebraska, UCLA, Iowa State, Syracuse, Illinois, Kansas, and UCF are looking for coaches.
It doesn't matter that half of these moves may already be done by the time our AD decides we need a new coach.
We'll just take our pick of the litter, and leave the scraps to the pissants.
Better?
It doesn't matter that half of these moves may already be done by the time our AD decides we need a new coach.
We'll just take our pick of the litter, and leave the scraps to the pissants.
Better?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:32 pm to troyt37
Schools like SMU, Kansas, Iowa State, Syracuse, Illinois, and UCF are the schools schools like Arkansas poach from.
Mississippi State? IF Mullen leaves, is STILL below Arkansas on the totem pole. UCLA is literally 2,000 miles away. Ole Miss is laughable on every level.
I've lost track of who is left on your list of threats.
Mississippi State? IF Mullen leaves, is STILL below Arkansas on the totem pole. UCLA is literally 2,000 miles away. Ole Miss is laughable on every level.
I've lost track of who is left on your list of threats.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:35 pm to troyt37
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Ole Miss, Mississippi State, SMU, UCLA, Iowa State, Syracuse, Illinois, Kansas, and UCF
I knew we had some fans who acted like our program was Northwest Arkansas State Community Colllege - Fayetteville campus and that we’ll be relegated to hiring some low level coordinator or high school coach, but you take the cake with this list of programs.
If you think any of these programs are a threat to our prospects of hiring a good football coach, I quite literally do not know what to tell you.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:37 pm to Feral
This dude is some sort of apologist.
I smell agenda at play here. Someone floating the idea that Bielema may not be fired because Tennessee is also looking.
I smell agenda at play here. Someone floating the idea that Bielema may not be fired because Tennessee is also looking.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:39 pm to troyt37
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It's not chicken little, it's being realistic. Name the coaches that Arkansas could hire, that wouldn't take a call from Florida, Tennessee, aTm, Auburn, or LSU. I'll wait.
Name a coach other than Saban and Urban who wouldn't take a call at any other programs.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 1:41 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Saban takes calls too!
Texas almost had him a couple years back but they got cocky and starting bragging about it before things were finalized.
Texas almost had him a couple years back but they got cocky and starting bragging about it before things were finalized.
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