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Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:17 pm to Tw1st3d
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:17 pm to Tw1st3d
Agree completely man.
What do you think about my theory that we have one/some offensive genius on the staff as an analyst and they're the ones breaking things down and giving Rees the plays/direction after halftime?
It's the only way I can explain how he looks completely different to anything he does..... then after some plays seems to revert back to his mean.
What do you think about my theory that we have one/some offensive genius on the staff as an analyst and they're the ones breaking things down and giving Rees the plays/direction after halftime?
It's the only way I can explain how he looks completely different to anything he does..... then after some plays seems to revert back to his mean.
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Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:25 pm to YStar
I suspect that "someone" is CNS.
Saban can see what the other team is doing and make strong suggestions on how to counter them. The problem is Saban does not give him the "what's next" steps.
Saban can see what the other team is doing and make strong suggestions on how to counter them. The problem is Saban does not give him the "what's next" steps.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:34 pm to Tw1st3d
Kiffen spent alot of time picking Saban's brain. How to put different types of defenses into conflict. He then took that info and created play sequences to cause and capitalize on those conflicts. When the season came around, he had a conflict chart in his head. When a teams showed in film study certain pridictive patterns, he would set up play groups to attack them.
He was a master of predictive sequence play calling for Alabama. That is when you would see him on the sideline with his hands in the air for a TD before the ball was ever thrown. He knew exactly what was about to happen.
He was a master of predictive sequence play calling for Alabama. That is when you would see him on the sideline with his hands in the air for a TD before the ball was ever thrown. He knew exactly what was about to happen.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:36 pm to YStar
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Rees rarely makes adaptations during the game.
It’s impossible for you to be objective isn’t it?
Everything you post is Milroe good and Rees bad.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:47 pm to Marktastic86
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I miss BoB's routes that had two, sometimes three receivers running to the same part of the field and brought all their defenders with them.
THIS was the number one thing about BoB that drove me crazy about his passing scheme. And a big part of our demise against Ga in the title game.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:35 pm to Joka2kold
I don't know how to parse out Rees's performance because it kinda feels like a lot of our performance comes downs to execution (positively, negatively).
When the players are playing with urgency, they can put up 20+ points in a half against quality SEC defenses.
When the players are not playing with urgency, they can look like one of the worst offenses we've fielded since the Mike Shula era.
Frankly, the offensive staff has done some very nice things to scheme receivers open for shot plays. The problems with the passing offense seem to be mostly protection and QB execution issues. The problems with the running offense seem to be execution by the blockers and backs.
Hard to have a highly effective passing offense when you basically have no confidence in throws from your quarterback under 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. The passing offense has been built around pushing the ball downfield but that really limits your ability to call quick passes to dull pass rush. Unfortunately, the LT is really a guard and cannot handle speed rush so 3rd and medium to long passing is an adventure. The defense knows your WRs are going to be pushing the ball downfield and they're playing dead red to the quarterback without any respect for screens or short passes they may need to try to deflect or turn and run for the tackle.
Additionally, the very big OL is not really a good fit for an OC who wants to run a lot of pin and pull concepts. The guards have been hit or miss as pullers. I think it has been getting better since moving on to Roberts at RG, it is still not fantastic though. Pin and pull is maybe not a good fit for our tailbacks because neither has good enough burst to really threaten defenses outside the tackle so they're mostly relegated pressing inside for hard earned yards. Tagging a jet sweep onto these runs has been a good addition by the offensive staff. If the backs are going to be mostly getting their nose dirty on these runs and not trying to spring around the corner much, you need to keep the backside run support from crashing down on them for no gain runs or TFLs. Also, it helps get the backers out of position and allows some big runs up the gut. This is what happened in the first play of that 2-play TD drive to start the 2nd half. (Edit: this statement is not correct. It looks like we were running the duo concept that is another favorite for Rees. Still, the sweep affected the linebackers and safety who should've had a chance at Jase.)
So yeah, I am puzzled by some of Rees' decisions but the core problems with this offense's consistency is mostly on limitations of the players. Jam and Justice are bigger threats on pin and pull runs, we love calling them but don't love getting those two on the field for meaningful snaps. They can press the outside better which would open up the cut back inside for bigger gains. That's my biggest quibble with the staff. They are not playing our best backs. Neither McClellan nor Williams are fantastic pass protection performers. Clearly better than the younger options on the depth chart but I am not sure that is enough of a reason to keep 2-4 explosive runs per game off the field for a team that desperately needs explosive plays to produce points.
When the players are playing with urgency, they can put up 20+ points in a half against quality SEC defenses.
When the players are not playing with urgency, they can look like one of the worst offenses we've fielded since the Mike Shula era.
Frankly, the offensive staff has done some very nice things to scheme receivers open for shot plays. The problems with the passing offense seem to be mostly protection and QB execution issues. The problems with the running offense seem to be execution by the blockers and backs.
Hard to have a highly effective passing offense when you basically have no confidence in throws from your quarterback under 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. The passing offense has been built around pushing the ball downfield but that really limits your ability to call quick passes to dull pass rush. Unfortunately, the LT is really a guard and cannot handle speed rush so 3rd and medium to long passing is an adventure. The defense knows your WRs are going to be pushing the ball downfield and they're playing dead red to the quarterback without any respect for screens or short passes they may need to try to deflect or turn and run for the tackle.
Additionally, the very big OL is not really a good fit for an OC who wants to run a lot of pin and pull concepts. The guards have been hit or miss as pullers. I think it has been getting better since moving on to Roberts at RG, it is still not fantastic though. Pin and pull is maybe not a good fit for our tailbacks because neither has good enough burst to really threaten defenses outside the tackle so they're mostly relegated pressing inside for hard earned yards. Tagging a jet sweep onto these runs has been a good addition by the offensive staff. If the backs are going to be mostly getting their nose dirty on these runs and not trying to spring around the corner much, you need to keep the backside run support from crashing down on them for no gain runs or TFLs. Also, it helps get the backers out of position and allows some big runs up the gut. This is what happened in the first play of that 2-play TD drive to start the 2nd half. (Edit: this statement is not correct. It looks like we were running the duo concept that is another favorite for Rees. Still, the sweep affected the linebackers and safety who should've had a chance at Jase.)
So yeah, I am puzzled by some of Rees' decisions but the core problems with this offense's consistency is mostly on limitations of the players. Jam and Justice are bigger threats on pin and pull runs, we love calling them but don't love getting those two on the field for meaningful snaps. They can press the outside better which would open up the cut back inside for bigger gains. That's my biggest quibble with the staff. They are not playing our best backs. Neither McClellan nor Williams are fantastic pass protection performers. Clearly better than the younger options on the depth chart but I am not sure that is enough of a reason to keep 2-4 explosive runs per game off the field for a team that desperately needs explosive plays to produce points.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 9:15 pm
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