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re: tOfficial Alabama Basketball Season Thread | 19-15 (10-8) | #BuckleUp
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:09 am to Gary Busey
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:09 am to Gary Busey
I'll watch this game, with highlights of Petty and Sexton pulled up. I'll never be disappointed!
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:28 am to Gary Busey
We're a 6.5 point favorite
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:52 am to Bamafan15
If I gambled, I put some money on Auburn. If we win I'm happy. If we lose, I get like $80 or something
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:29 am to TomRollTideRitter
How can Gonzaga be going undefeated for the 2nd time in five years, and we can't even make the fricking tournament
Posted on 2/4/17 at 10:44 am to TomRollTideRitter
they recruit the great white hopes who understand the team concept.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:07 am to mrbroker
Gonzaga recruits at a decent level, they have real talent and pull in on avg 1-2 top 100 guys
The problem with a ton of this superstar athletes is that their natural athleticism is good enough most of the time. Hard to tell a kid who dominates CBB without trying that he has to work on his game (See LSU players a few years ago)
Teams like Gonzaga through good coaching and finding the right players get guys who never rely on their athletic gifts and develop all aspects of their game
The problem with a ton of this superstar athletes is that their natural athleticism is good enough most of the time. Hard to tell a kid who dominates CBB without trying that he has to work on his game (See LSU players a few years ago)
Teams like Gonzaga through good coaching and finding the right players get guys who never rely on their athletic gifts and develop all aspects of their game
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 11:09 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:14 am to GenesChin
Maybe more teams should try to replicate what they do than trying to replicate Kentucky or North Carolina. The last time the Zags didn't make the NCAA tournament I was two.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:30 am to TomRollTideRitter
Well Mark Few is an elite coach and identifies talent extremely well. Those coaches don't grow on trees 
The bigger issue is that you find a coach like that and can't "get over the hump" By the time the tourney rolls around some of the more talented teams develop/buy in and Gonzaga can't compete
Big reason why Gonzaga beat Arizona in OOC yet would be curb stomped right now
The bigger issue is that you find a coach like that and can't "get over the hump" By the time the tourney rolls around some of the more talented teams develop/buy in and Gonzaga can't compete
Big reason why Gonzaga beat Arizona in OOC yet would be curb stomped right now
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:33 am to TomRollTideRitter
Additionally, recruiting a couple top 100 players can make you a good program with shite coaching. Being an elite developer/coach won't necessarily win w subpar talent
It is the weird but it is less risky to try and recreate U.K. Than to recreate Gonzaga
It is the weird but it is less risky to try and recreate U.K. Than to recreate Gonzaga
Posted on 2/4/17 at 11:44 am to GenesChin
Idk. I think you might be better off trying to build an experienced team that plays well together than trying to beat the bluebloods at their own game. I mean Villanova is no where near Kentucky talent wise, but they won the NC and UK lost 2nd round. Hell Kentucky has had the most talent for years and only one NC to show for it.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 12:52 pm to GenesChin
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Teams like Gonzaga through good coaching and finding the right players get guys who never rely on their athletic gifts and develop all aspects of their game
Something Bo Ryan at Wisconsin did, and it was beautiful.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:22 pm to Gary Busey
Gonzaga has an pretty good overseas pipeline I believe.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:28 pm to Tide or Die87
The entire WCC recruits Australia. Over half of St. Mary's team is from Australia
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:37 pm to TomRollTideRitter
You are acting like it is just super easy to find coaches whoc an develop players at that level
Also, Villanova recruits at an insane level. They have either 2 top 100 recruits or a 5* in just about every class. They are a top 10-15 team in talent yearly
Also, Villanova recruits at an insane level. They have either 2 top 100 recruits or a 5* in just about every class. They are a top 10-15 team in talent yearly
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:39 pm to TomRollTideRitter
I wish Auburn recruited Europe/International. Auburn's system is hgue on the stretch 4 big man (literally plays outside the arc all possessions). Not sure why we don't go to the lands of big men who play outside the post
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:54 pm to GenesChin
No they don't. From 247 Villanova's classes were 2013 32 overall, 2014 46 overall class, 2015 30 overall, 2016 44 overall.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:12 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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No they don't.
... Villanova's top 7 scorers were all top 100 recruits
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Villanova's classes were 2013 32 overall, 2014 46 overall class, 2015 30 overall, 2016 44 overall.
You don't get how basketball team rankings work. If you only sign 2 guys because you only have 2 available scholarships, you could get 2 top 50 players and be outsdie the top 25
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:18 pm to GenesChin
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Villanova's top 7 scorers were all top 100 recruits
That's my point. I'm not saying they recruit schmucks, but they recruit guys who stay there for a while. You can't stockpile talent like that recruiting one and dones unless you're one of the bluebloods. They've had like one second round draft pick the past three years.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:28 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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You can't stockpile talent like that recruiting one and dones
I just realize where we aren't really talking about the same thing. You don't need to worry about Alabama having too many 1 and dones. The only time that will become a problem is if Alabama is winning a ton to get that type of interest.
What my point was earlier is that a lot of guys with extreme athleticism can succeed in CBB without refining their skillset/playing well in the system. Once you play against someone like UK you get steamrolled because their talent > your talent
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 2/4/17 at 2:36 pm to GenesChin
Just to emphasize that point, only about 15 FR get drafted every year. The chances of yearly having one top 15 NBA ready FR is incredibly low unless you recruit like UK, which only a couple can.
Alabama, like every other non blue blood, will have the chance to have a roster that is developed over years
Alabama, like every other non blue blood, will have the chance to have a roster that is developed over years
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