re: How did this team win 11 games?

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Lots of crossing routes that I’ve yet to see at Alabama

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Those are typically man beaters. Most teams (not all) run man-2-man when they need extra people in the pass rush. That level of extra people in the pass rush was not needed (in general) against Alabama.

Most of the year, Alabama would not roll the QB to the edge. Ty was by design supposed to avoid the rush by moving up in the pocket from a shotgun 5 step drop. It worked for a while until the better DC's learned how to break it. Slants with twists to the middle. The OG's and running backs did not handle those stunts well and when Ty would move up in the pocket he was met with massive bodies and heavy hitters in his face and at his legs.

Eventually, Ty did not trust being able to move up in the pocket. When he got in the mode of attempting to slip the rush backwards or to the side, the DC's put more twist pressure on the tackles and speed rush up field. Tackles had to choose which man to block. Ty was watching for pass pro colapse as much or more than post reading the coverages.

Physically, Ty was hurting from too many bad hits. Mentally, Ty had no trust in his protection.

With big hitters at his feet, he no longer trusted he could plant his front foot and throw over it on deep routes. From pain, he no longer had the clean ability to throw with torso torque. When Ty passes over the top he has pretty good deep accuracy. When Ty tries to throw deep with torso troque he loses accuracy and the ball fades to his right. Deep left side throws fade toward the safeties. Deep right side throws fade to the sideline. Deep middle throw hang up or he muscles them and they over fly the target.

Ty revertd to what he trusted most. Good DC's took those away because they did not have to worry about the run or deep shots to the outside. Decent DC's could just follow what the better DC's had shown them.

Ty's game was cooked. Cooked physically and cooked mentally. He could still read the D presnap but he did not trust his blockers enough to read well post snap. His run adjustment reads did not matter as the OL could not block run well enough to overcome the lack of RB vision and short area exploision.

Kirby/UGA broke the Alabama offense with halftime adjustments in the first game. The decent DC's used that map the remainder of the season, if they had the players to execute the plan.

Thanks

The fact Bama no RB with juice just added to the bad situation. I am only 75 but I don't recall a year where we had such terrible RB's.

Not one game or two but the entire year.

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Y-star is correct about Alabama not throwing deep on the outside. But the reasons for not doing that have echos from bad OL and RB play and a coaching staff that never adjusted to what the players could not do against what the DC were throwing up against them.

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My thing about that was using film study we saw a significant trend of 1st/2nd down being used by DCs to crowd and stack the box. Hard for us to open run lanes when they always had more defenders and knew they could easily keep our passing game in front of them.

Knowing that we needed to gamble on 1st downs more and that was our issue with Ty. He needed to just take that 3/5/7 drop step and sling it; don't over think it. Don't go timid. Don't be scared it won't get there or it will get dropped.

We needed him to do what he wasn't comfortable with and what the scheme dictated (also ironically what they were giving us) and he just refused.

Sounds like he may want to go to UT or Oregon and make more cash. If you sense these limitations, then the NFL sure as hell will.

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I suspect if he made that move #1 & #17 would want to follow him.

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Why do you believe this? Something they said or something you seen in their behavior?

Also, for me Keelon Russell needs to be the guy no differently than Ty needed to last spring. Ehoe do you feel about that as a thought process?

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Also, for me Keelon Russell needs to be the guy no differently than Ty needed to last spring.

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Assuming Ty leaves, the ideal for KRus would be to have the #1 slot in spring and build his connections. The downside, Mack would likely head out after spring ball and Alabama would have 3 very young QB's with no experience.

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Assuming Ty leaves, the ideal for KRus would be to have the #1 slot in spring and build his connections. The downside, Mack would likely head out after spring ball and Alabama would have 3 very young QB's with no experience.

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Imo Mack is #1 next year and that is just because Deboer seems very loyal to his qbs. He brought Mack with him and will reward that. No sauces just my gut feeling.

Fwiw Both Mack and Keelon are very much Bama. If one of em leaves it won't be because its something they really want to do.