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Football Recruiting & Roster MEGATHREAD: Alabama grabs DB Jahquez Robinson edition
2019 Signing Class | Roster | Transfer Portal
Signing/Counter Limits | Recruiting Calendar
Composite Rankings: Recruit | Team | Talent

2020 Top Targets (27) Commits (11) | Offers

(Commits: bold | Early signees ^ / enrollees *)

Offensive Backs (3-4)
4* QB Malik Hornsby 6-2/175 TX hudl
4* QB Carson Beck 6-3.5/214 FL hudl
4* QB Robby Ashford 6-4/210 AL hudl
4* RB Roydell Williams 5-10/202 AL hudl
5* RB Zachary Evans 6-0/213 TX hudl
5* RB Kendall Milton 6-1/211 CA hudl
4* RB Tank Bigsby 6-0/195 GA hudl *
5* RB Bijan Robinson 6-0/200 AZ hudl
5* APB Chris Tyree 5-9/178 VA hudl

Wide Receivers (3-4)
4* WR Dazalin Worsham 6-1/175 AL hudl
4* WR Javon Baker 6-1/180 GA hudl
4* WR EJ Williams 6-3/183 AL hudl *
5* WR Rakim Jarrett 6-0/182 DC hudl
4* WR Jermaine Burton 6-1/193 CA hudl
4* WR JJ Evans 6-2/185 AL hudl
3* WR Thaiu Jones-Bell 5-11/180 FL hudl
5* WR Marcus Rosemy 6-2/187 FL hudl
5* WR Julian Fleming 6-3/210 PA hudl

Tight Ends (1-2)
3* TE Caden Clark 6-4/246 OH hudl
5* TE Arik Gilbert 6-5/248 GA hudl
4* TE Jeremiah Pegues 6-3/260 MS hudl
4* TE DJ Rogers 6-3.5/230 WA hudl
5* TE Darnell Washington 6-7/250 NV hudl

Offensive Line (3-4)
4* OT Marcus Dumervil 6-6/300 FL hudl
4* OT Damieon George 6-6/320 TX hudl
4* OT Tate Ratledge 6-6/295 GA hudl
4* OL Omari Thomas 6-4.5/301 TN hudl
4* OL Marcus Henderson 6-5/298 TN hudl

Defensive Line (3-4)
4* DT Jayson Jones 6-6.5/340 AL hudl
5* DT McKinnley Jackson 6-2/324 MS hudl
4* DL Jah-Marien Latham 6-3/280 AL hudl
5* DE Bryan Bresee 6-5/290 MD hudl
5* DE Myles Murphy 6-5/255 GA hudl
4* DE Vernon Broughton 6-5/280 TX hudl
4* DE Andy Boykin 6-3/257 GA hudl
4* DE/LB Jordan Banks 6-3/245 CA hudl

Linebackers (5-6)
4* ILB Jackson Bratton 6-3/225 AL hudl
5* ILB Antoine Sampah 6-2.5/220 VA hudl
5* ILB Justin Flowe 6-2/225 CA hudl
5* LB Sav'ell Smalls 6-3/230 WA hudl
5* LB Mekhail Sherman 6-3/234 DC hudl
5* OLB Chris Braswell 6-3/211 MD hudl
5* OLB Reggie Grimes 6-4/225 TN hudl
4* OLB Quandarrius Robinson 6-4/207 AL hudl

Defensive Backs (4-5)
4* S/QB Kristian Story 6-2/206 AL hudl
4* CB Malachi Moore 6-0/175 AL hudl
4* CB Javier Morton 6-1/175 GA hudl
3* CB Jahquez Robinson 6-2/180 FL hudl
5* CB Dwight McGlothern 6-2/185 TX hudl
5* CB Kelee Ringo 6-2/205 AZ hudl
5* CB Elias Ricks 6-2/180 CA hudl LSU

Specialists (0-1)
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2020 Additional Prospects
(Early signee ^ / enrollee *)

Offense
5* QB DJ Uiagalelei 6-4/240 CA hudl
5* RB Demarkcus Bowman 5-11/186 FL hudl
5* RB MarShawn Lloyd 5-10/210 MD hudl
4* WR Jordan Johnson 6-2/180 MO hudl
4* WR/DB Marc Britt 6-2/190 FL hudl
4* OL Chris Morris 6-4/290 TN hudl
4* OL Sedrick Van Pran 6-4/305 LA hudl
4* OT Paul Tchio 6-5/325 GA hudl CU
Defense
4* DT Josaih Hayes 6-3/280 MS hudl
4* DT Timothy Smith 6-4/340 FL hudl
4* DT Branard Wright 6-3/294 TX hudl
3* DL Eric Taylor 6-4/280 AL hudl
5* DE Jordan Burch 6-5/250 SC hudl
4* DE Tyler Baron 6-4.5/248 TN hudl
4* DE Jay Hardy 6-4.5/265 TN hudl
4* OLB Demon Clowney 6-4/225 MD hudl
4* OLB Phillip Webb 6-4/210 GA hudl
4* OLB Zykeivous Walker 6-4/255 GA hudl
4* S Jordan Toles 6-3/190 MD hudl
5* CB Fred Davis II 6-2/180 FL hudl

Note: Lists of all offers by position with 247 and hudl links won't be posted anymore. It's too time consuming to monitor for offers and post them. The Offers links in this thread's 1st & 3rd posts provide 247's lists by position, and 247's recruit pages have their highlight videos. You can also easily access a player's hudl page via 247's list. Simply copy the player's name, open a new tab, paste his name and type hudl after it.
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2021 Top Targets (25) | Commits (0) | Offers
(Commits: bold | Early signees ^ / enrollees *)

Offensive Backs
4* QB Tyler Buchner 6-2/200 CA hudl
4* QB Preston Stone 6-2/185 TX hudl
0* QB Aaron McLaughlin 6-4/225 GA hudl
0* QB Caleb Williams 6-0/190 DC hudl
4* RB Camar Wheaton 5-11/190 TX hudl

Receivers & Tight Ends
4* WR Dacari Collins 6-4.5/201 GA hudl
5* WR Troy Franklin 6-2/170 CA hudl
4* WR Quincy Brown 6-3/175 LA hudl
0* WR Agiye Hall 6-3/190 FL hudl
0* TE Devon Martin 6-5/240 TX hudl

Offensive Line
5* OL Micah Morris 6-3.5/286 GA hudl
5* OT Landon Tengwall 6-6/300 MD hudl
5* OT Donovan Jackson 6-3.5/295 TX hudl

Defensive Line
4* DT Tim Keenan 6-2/285 AL hudl
4* DT Katron Evans 6-4/293 VA hudl
4* DT Payton Page 6-4/315 NC hudl
5* DL JT Tuimoloau 6-4.5/277 WA hudl
0* DE Tunmise Adeleye 6-3/260 TX hudl

Linebackers
5* ILB Kendrick Blackshire 6-2/245 TX hudl
0* OLB Travion Ford 6-4/215 MO hudl

Defensive Backs
4* CB Ga'Quincy McKinstry 6-1/175 AL hudl
4* CB Tony Grimes 6-0/180 VA hudl
0* CB Andre Turrentine 6-0/180 TN hudl

Athletes & Specialists
0* ATH Xavian Sorey 6-3/200 FL hudl
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2019 Signing Class (27) Note | Megathread
(Signees: bold | Early signees ^ / enrollees *)

Offensive Backs (4)
4* QB Taulia Tagovailoa 5-11/210 AL hudl * 5
4* QB Paul Tyson 6-4.5/217 AL hudl * 15
5* RB Trey Sanders 6-0/215 IMG/FL hudl ^
4* RB Keilan Robinson 5-9.5/186 DC hudl

Receivers & Tight Ends (2-3)
4* WR/DB John Metchie 6-0/195 NJ hudl * 3
4* TE/WR Jahleel Billingsley 6-4/216 IL hudl ^
3* TE Nakia Griffin-Stewart 6-5/255 NJ Grad

Offensive Line (5)
5* OT Evan Neal 6-7.5/360 IMG/FL hudl * 73
4* OT Amari Kight 6-6.5/315 AL hudl * 78
4* OL Pierce Quick 6-5/287 AL hudl * 72
4* OL Tanner Bowles 6-5/280 KY hudl * 51
4* OC Darrian Dalcourt 6-3/290 MD hudl * 71

Defensive Line (6)
4* DT DJ Dale 6-3/314 AL hudl * 94
4* DT Ishmael Sopsher 6-3.5/334 LA hudl
4* DL Byron Young 6-2.5/290 MS hudl
5* DE Antonio Alfano 6-4/290 NJ hudl * 56
4* DE Justin Eboigbe 6-4.5/284 GA hudl * 92
4* DE Braylen Ingraham 6-4/260 FL hudl ^

Linebackers (4)
4* ILB Shane Lee 6-1/235 MD hudl * 35
4* ILB Christian Harris 6-1/235 LA film ^
4* OLB Kevin Harris 6-4/228 GA hudl * 44
4* OLB King Mwikuta 6-5/240 GA hudl ^

Defensive Backs (5)
4* S DeMarcco Hellams 6-1/203 MD hudl ^
4* S/CB Brandon Turnage 6-1/185 MS hudl ^
4* CB/S Jordan Battle 6-1/187 FL hudl ^
4* CB Jeffery Carter 6-0/185 TX hudl * 11
4* CB Marcus Banks 6-0/170 TX hudl ^

Specialists (1-2)
3* K/P Will Reichard 6-1/185 AL hudl * 16
0* P/K Tylan Perine 6-1/195 AL hudl PWO
0* P Nash Acton 5-11/185 MS hudl PWO?

Note: Jersey numbers listed on far right.
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2018 Signing Class (23) | Megathread
(Numbers notes below)

2017 Blue & Grayshirts (2018 initial counters)
3* OC Hunter Brannon 6-4/290 AL hudl BS 50
3* PK Joseph Bulovas 6-0/212 LA hudl BS 97
4* LB Jarez Parks 6-4/251 FL hudl GS 23

2018 Early Enrollees (midyear replacements)
4* WR Slade Bolden 5-11/200 LA hudl 18
4* DE Stephon Wynn 6-4/299 IMG/SC hudl 90
4* CB Saivion Smith 6-1/200 Juco/FL hudl 4
3* PT Skyler DeLong 6-4/189 SC hudl 12

2018 Summer Enrollees
4* RB Jerome Ford 5-11/206 FL hudl 27
4* WR Jaylen Waddle 5-9/177 TX hudl 17
4* WR Xavier Williams 6-1/182 FL hudl 9
3* TE Michael Parker 6-6/224 AL hudl 80
4* OT Tommy Brown 6-7/309 CA hudl 75
4* OC Emil Ekiyor 6-3/342 IN hudl 55
4* DT Christian Barmore 6-5/292 PA hudl 58
3* DT Tevita Musika 6-1/338 Juco/CA hudl 91
3* ILB Jaylen Moody 6-2/227 SC hudl 42
5* OLB Eyabi Anoma 6-5/245 MD hudl 9
4* OLB Cameron Latu 6-5/246 UT hudl 20
5* CB Patrick Surtain Jr. 6-2/202 FL hudl 2
4* CB Jalyn Armour-Davis 6-1/181 AL hudl 22
4* CB Josh Jobe 6-1/191 FL hudl 28
3* CB Eddie Smith 6-0/184 LA hudl 25

2018 Fall Enrollees
4* ILB Brandon "Ale" Kaho 6-1/218 NV hudl 10

2018 Non-Qualifiers (see Note below)
4* OLB Jordan Davis 6-6/240 TN hudl NQ-Juco

2018 Key Walk-ons
QB Layne Hatcher 6-0/196 AR hudl 18
QB Braxton Barker 6-0/180 AL hudl 7
PK Austin Jones 5-10/215 Grad film 29

Note: 2018's totals = 20 signees and 23 initial counters. 2017's blue and grayshirts are 2018 initial counters but counted as 2017 signees.

Note: Non-qualifier Juco enrollee Jordan Davis did not count toward 2018's 25 signings limit because UA did not give him an NLI to sign.

Note: Jersey numbers listed on far right.
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2019 ROSTER (85-man) * = redshirt
** PROJECTED / BEING UPDATED **
(2018 Roster is the next post below)

Quarterback (4)
SR: None
JR: Tua Tagovailoa
SO: Mac Jones*
FR: Paul Tyson, Taulia Tagovailoa

Running Back (5)
SR: None
JR: Najee Harris, Brian Robinson
SO: None
FR: Jerome Ford*, Trey Sanders, Keilan Robinson

Wide Receiver (9)
SR: None
JR: Jerry Jeudy, DeVonta Smith, Henry Ruggs
SO: Tyrell Shavers*, Chadarius Townsend*, Jaylen Waddle
FR: Xavier Williams*, Slade Bolden*, John Metchie

Tight End (5)
SR: None
JR: Miller Forristall*, Kedrick James
SO: Major Tennison*
FR: Michael Parker*, Jahleel Billingsley

Offensive Line (15)
SR: Matt Womack*
JR: Deonte Brown*, Scott Lashley*, Chris Owens*, Alex Leatherwood, Jedrick Wills
SO: Kendall Randolph*, Hunter Brannon*
FR: Emil Ekiyor*, Tommy Brown*, Amari Kight, Evan Neal, Pierce Quick, Tanner Bowles, Darian Dalcourt

Defensive Line (12)
SR: Raekwon Davis, Tevita Musika
JR: LaBryan Ray
SO: Phidarian Mathis*
FR: Stephon Wynn*, Christian Barmore*, DJ Dale, Antonio Alfano, Justin Eboigbe, Byron Young, Ishmael Sopsher, Braylen Ingraham

Inside Linebacker (7)
SR: Joshua McMillon*
JR: Dylan Moses
SO: Markail Benton*, Jaylen Moody, Ale Kaho
FR: Shane Lee, Christian Harris

Outside Linebacker (9-?)
SR: Anfernee Jennings*
JR: Terrell Lewis*, Ben Davis*?
SO: Christopher Allen*, Eyabi Anoma
FR: Jarez Parks*, Cameron Latu*, Kevin Harris, King Mwikuta

Safety (6)
SR: Jared Mayden
JR: Xavier McKinney
SO: Daniel Wright*, Eddie Smith
FR: DeMarcco Hellams, Brandon Turnage

Cornerback (9)
SR: Trevon Diggs, Shyheim Carter
JR: Nigel Knott*
SO: Patrick Surtain, Josh Jobe
FR: Jalyn Armour-Davis*, Jeffery Carter, Jordan Battle, Marcus Banks

Specialists (4-?)
SR: None
JR: Thomas Fletcher
SO: Joseph Bulovas*, Skyler DeLong?
FR: Will Reichard

Total (85-0?=85)

Notes: Elliot Baker and Keaton Anderson have degrees and appear to be moving on, since they aren't on the Official 2019 Roster. Scott Meyer and Kyriq McDonald are in the Transfer Portal.

Roster data for early enrollees (al.com)
#3 - WR John Metchie, 6-0/195
#5 - QB Taulia Tagovailoa, 5-11/209
11 - DB Jeffrey “Scooby” Carter, 6-0/186
15 - QB Paul Tyson, 6-5/218
16 - PK Will Reichard, 6-1/185
35 - LB Shane Lee, 6-0/246
44 - LB Kevin Harris II, 6-4/224
51 - OL Tanner Bowles, 6-5/280
56 - DL Antonio Alfano, 6-4/290
71 - OL Darrian Dalcourt, 6-3/292
72 - OL Pierce Quick, 6-5/285
73 - OL Evan Neal, 6-7/360
78 - OL Amari Kight, 6-7/312
92 - DL Justin Ebiogbe, 6-5/284
94 - DL DJ Dale, 6-3/314
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2018 ROSTER (85-man) * = redshirt
( Updates noted below )

Quarterback (3)
SR: None
JR: Jalen Hurts
SO: Tua Tagovailoa
FR: Mac Jones*

Running Back (6)
SR: Damien Harris, Ronnie Clark*
JR: Josh Jacobs
SO: Najee Harris, Brian Robinson
FR: Jerome Ford

Wide Receiver (10)
SR: Derek Kief*, Xavian Marks
JR: None
SO: Jerry Jeudy, DeVonta Smith, Henry Ruggs III
FR: Tyrell Shavers*, Chadarius Townsend*, Jaylen Waddle, Xavier Williams, Slade Bolden

Tight End (6)
SR: Hale Hentges
JR: Irv Smith Jr.
SO: Miller Forristall*, Major Tennison, Kedrick James
FR: Michael Parker

Offensive Line (16)
SR: Ross Pierschbacher*, Lester Cotton, Joshua Casher*
JR: Jonah Williams, Matt Womack*, Richie Petitbon*, Elliot Baker*
SO: Deonte Brown*, Scott Lashley*, Chris Owens*, Alex Leatherwood, Jedrick Wills
FR: Kendall Randolph*, Hunter Brannon*, Emil Ekiyor, Tommy Brown

Defensive Line (9)
SR: Isaiah Buggs, Johnny Dwight*
JR: Raekwon Davis, Tevita Musika
SO: Quinnen Williams*, LaBryan Ray
FR: Phidarian Mathis*, Stephon Wynn, Christian Barmore

Inside Linebacker (6)
SR: None
JR: Mack Wilson, Joshua McMillon*
SO: Dylan Moses,
FR: Markail Benton*, Jaylen Moody, Brandon "Ale" Kaho

Outside Linebacker (9)
SR: Christian Miller*, Jamey Mosley*
JR: Anfernee Jennings*, Terrell Lewis
SO: Christopher Allen, Ben Davis*
FR: Jarez Parks, Eyabi Anoma, Cameron Latu

Safety (7)
SR: None
JR: Deionte Thompson*, Jared Mayden, Keaton Anderson*
SO: Xavier McKinney, Daniel Wright
FR: Kyriq McDonald*, Eddie Smith

Cornerback (8)
SR: DJ Lewis
JR: Trevon Diggs, Shyheim Carter, Saivion Smith
SO: Nigel Knott*
FR: Patrick Surtain Jr., Josh Jobe, Jalyn Armour-Davis

Specialists (4)
SR: None
JR: None
SO: Thomas Fletcher, Scott Meyer*
FR: Joseph Bulovas*, Skyler DeLong

Note: As of Feb 7, UA has 85 scholarship players signed for the 2018 season. Any scholarships for potential transfers (QB, DL, LB) or grad transfer kicker Austin Jones (PWO) will require attrition (e.g., graduating RS SRs who rarely play). But it's doubtful that Austin Jones will get a scholarship because it would cost UA an initial counter spot.
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Andrew Bone @AndrewJBone
JuCo DL Tevita Musika signs with #Alabama. He is a member of the 2018 class. He visited Alabama this past weekend. He measured 6-foot-2, 340-pounds. Crimson Tide adds some beef on the thin defensive front.
12:09 pm · Mar 28, 2018
>>> DT Tevita Musika 6-1/338 (Juco/CA) hudl

05/01: Report: Dallas Warmack to transfer from UA after graduation (BamaOnLine)
Note: Warmack's exit makes room for Tevita Musika within the 85 total scholarships limit.

05/08: Report: Reserve OL Brandon Kennedy to transfer from Alabama (BamaOnLine)
Note: Kennedy's exit puts UA's 2018 roster at 84 players on scholarship.

05/25: Alabama lands 2018 QB Layne Hatcher (BamaOnLine)
Note: Hatcher did not receive a scholarship.

07/10: Bama signee Jordan Davis going JUCO route (BamaOnLine)
Note: Davis not enrolling keeps UA's 2018 roster at 84 players on scholarship.

07/09: Alabama dismisses VanDarius Cowan for 'violation of team rules' (BamaOnLine)
Note: Cowan's exit puts UA's 2018 roster at 83 players on scholarship.

07/18: Alabama LB Keith Holcombe will not be a part of 2018 team (BamaOnLine)
Note: Holcombe's departure puts UA's roster at 82 players on scholarship.

08/08: Former 5-star LB Brandon "Ale" Kaho headed to Alabama (BOL)
Note: Kaho puts UA's 2018 roster at 83 players on scholarship.

08/24: Walk-ons Scott Meyer (LS) and DJ Lewis (CB) awarded scholarships -- likely for one year.
Note: Meyer & Lewis put UA's 2018 roster at 85 players on scholarship.

08/27: Alabama releases official depth chart before 2018 season (BamaOnLine)

09/05: Alabama football ranks among national leaders in graduates (BamaOnLine)
Note: 11 scholarship players have degrees.

12/12: UA reserve offensive lineman Richie Petitbon plans to transfer (al.com)

12/14: Alabama football players make up half of UA's winter graduates (BamaOnLine)
Note: 13 scholarship players graduated in Dec.

01/10: Alabama's season-long participation chart, redshirt candidates (BamaOnLine)

01/10: 2019 CFB Transfer Portal
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Recruiting Calendar - Nov 2018 to Jul 2019

11/25-12/14 - Contact Period - Off-campus.

12/17-01/10 - Dead Period - No face-to-face.

12/19-12/21 - Early Signing Period

02/04-02/07 - Dead Period - No face-to-face.

02/06-04/01 - National Signing Day / Period

02/08-04/14 - Quiet Period - No off-campus.

04/15-05/31 - Evaluation Period - Off-campus.

06/01-06/23 - Quiet Period - No off-campus.

06/24-07/23 - Dead Period - No face-to-face.
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NCAA Bylaws: Signing and Counter Limits

NCAA Bylaws sections concerning FBS signing and counter limits are posted below. The basic 25/85 (initial/total) scholarship limits are fairly common knowledge, but to help clear up some common misconceptions about them, here are six important things to understand:

1) Transfers (all types) do count toward annual signee and initial counter limits. There's nothing in the Bylaws stating that transfers are exempt. Per section 13.9.2.3, both prospective student-athletes and student-athletes (all-inclusive) do count toward the signee limits. 15.02.3 defines "counter" as an individual (all-inclusive) who is on a countable scholarship. 15.02.3.1 defines “initial counter” as a counter (all-inclusive) who is receiving an initial countable scholarship.

2) Non-qualifiers who signed an NLI still count against their original signee spot and then count against the corresponding initial counter spot at that school if/when they enroll there after JUCO.

3) Grayshirts (15.5.6.3.2) — Deferred enrollees (after fall term) may count toward signing and initial counter limits for the next academic year.

4) Blueshirts (15.5.6.3.4) — The signings limit (effective for the 2018 cycle) ends the ability for non-recruited (no OV, no off-campus meeting, no NLI; 15.02.8) players to receive fall scholarships (within the 85 limit) and count toward the next year's initial counters limit because they'll count toward the current academic year's signing limit (post explaining potential blueshirting loophole).

5) Early enrollees (15.5.6.3.5) that are midyear replacements for December or prior academic year graduates may be counted against unused prior cycle signee and initial counter spots. FBS schools may only use the midyear replacement option if they had 85 counters in the fall term.

6) Non-athletic aid (15.5.6.3.7) — A recruited player (OV, off-campus meeting or NLI; 15.02.8) on non-athletic scholarship only counts toward signee and initial/total limits if/when he plays in a game. Exception (15.5.1.2.1) — A recruited player on academic scholarship, after one year with a 3.0/4.0 GPA, may then play and remain a non-counter. Apparently, a non-recruited player on non-athletic aid may play as a non-counter.

Note: A forum search for "NCAA Bylaws" will retrieve some additional explanatory posts.

Helpful articles: Asking for NLI Release - FAQs;
A deep dive inside the NCAA's tweaked 25-man signing limit; Q&A on 25-Signing Cap, Transfers, Walk-ons, more; What is an academic redshirt?; How is academic redshirt certification different than competition certification?
; When College Coaches Can Contact High School Athletes

NCAA Bylaws: (PDF - free download)

13.9.2.3 Limitation on the Number of National Letter of Intent/Offer of Financial Aid Signings. [FBS] For the football bowl subdivision, there shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of prospective student-athletes who may sign a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid and student-athletes who may sign a financial aid agreement for the first time. (Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)

13.9.2.3.1 Application. [FBS] A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent (NLI) or an institutional offer of financial aid or student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided in the fall term of an academic year shall count toward the annual limit on signings for that academic year. A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent (NLI) or an institutional offer of financial aid or student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided during the second or third term of the academic year may count toward the limit for that academic year or the next academic year. (Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)

15.02.3 Counter. A “counter” is an individual who is receiving institutional financial aid that is countable against the aid limitations in a sport.

15.02.3.1 Initial Counter. An “initial counter” is a counter who is receiving countable financial aid in a sport for the first time. (See Bylaw 15.5.6.3 in football for instances in which the institution is permitted to defer the counting of such financial aid until the following academic year.)

15.02.8 Recruited Student-Athlete. For purpose of Bylaw 15, a recruited student-athlete is a student-athlete who, as a prospective student-athlete: (Adopted: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)
(a) Was provided an official visit to the institution’s campus;
(b) Had an arranged, in-person, off-campus encounter with a member of the institution’s coaching staff (including any such encounter with the prospective student-athlete’s parents, relatives or legal guardians); or
(c) Was issued a National Letter of Intent or a written offer of athletically related financial aid by the institution for a regular academic term.

The NCAA Bylaws concerning how players are counted against the 25 initial counters and 85 total counters limits are in the next post.
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NCAA Bylaws:

15.5.6 Football Limitations.

15.5.6.1 Bowl Subdivision Football. [FBS] There shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of initial counters (per Bylaw 15.02.3.1) and an annual limit of 85 on the total number of counters (including initial counters) in football at each institution. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/92, 12/15/06)

15.5.6.3 Initial Counters—Football (Also see Bylaw 15.02.3.1).

15.5.6.3.1 Recruited Student-Athlete Entering in Fall Term, Aided in First Year. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete recruited (see Bylaw 15.02.8) by the awarding institution who enters in the fall term and receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) during the first academic year in residence shall be an initial counter for that year in football. Therefore, such aid shall not be awarded if the institution has reached its limit on the number of initial counters prior to the award of institutional financial aid to the student-athlete.(Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.2 Recruited Student-Athlete Entering After Fall Term, Aided in First Year. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) by the awarding institution who enters after the first term of the academic year and immediately receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) shall be an initial counter for either the current academic year (if the institution’s annual limit has not been reached) or the next academic year. The student-athlete shall be included in the institution’s total counter limit during the academic year in which the aid was first received. (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.3 Recruited Student-Athlete, Aid Received After First Year. [FBS/FCS] A recruited student-athlete (per Bylaw 15.02.8) (including a student-athlete who was not a qualifier) who first receives athletically related financial aid after the student-athlete’s first academic year in residence shall be an initial counter for that academic year in which the aid is first received, if such aid is received during the fall term. However, such a student athlete who first receives athletically related financial aid in the second or third term of an academic year may be considered an initial counter during the academic year in which aid was first received or the next academic year. In either case, the student-athlete shall be included in the institution’s total counter limit during the academic year in which the aid was first received. (Revised: 1/3/06, 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.4 Nonrecruited Student-Athlete Receiving Institutional Financial Aid. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete not recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) by the institution who receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) after beginning football practice becomes a counter but need not be counted as an initial counter until the next academic year if the institution has reached its initial limit for the year in question. However, the student-athlete shall be considered in the total counter limit for the academic year in which the aid was first received. (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.5 Midyear Replacement. [FBS/FCS] A counter who graduates at midyear or who graduates during the previous academic year (including summer) may be replaced by an initial counter, who shall be counted against the initial limit either for the year in which the aid is awarded (if the institution’s annual limit has not been reached) or for the following academic year, or by a student-athlete who was an initial counter in a previous academic year and is returning to the institution after time spent on active duty in the armed services or on an official religious mission. In bowl subdivision football, an institution may use the midyear replacement exception only if it previously has provided financial aid during that academic year to the maximum number of overall counters (85 total counters). In championship subdivision football, an institution may use the midyear replacement exception only if it previously has provided financial aid during that academic year that equals the maximum number of overall equivalencies or overall counters. (Revised: 4/20/99 effective 8/1/99, 6/8/99, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 8/2/05, 12/15/06, 1/14/08 effective 8/1/08, 4/2/10, 1/15/11)

15.5.6.3.6 Aid First Awarded After Second Year. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete who has been in residence at the certifying institution for at least two academic years may receive athletically related financial aid for the first time without such aid counting as an initial award, provided the aid falls within the overall grant limitation. (Adopted: 1/11/89, Revised: 1/10/90 effective 8/1/90)

15.5.6.3.7 Recruited Student-Athlete, Varsity Competition. [FBS/FCS] In accordance with Bylaw 15.5.1.2, a recruited student-athlete (per Bylaw 15.02.8) receiving institutional financial aid certified as having been granted without regard in any degree to athletics ability becomes an initial counter in the first academic year in which the student-athlete competes on the varsity level. (See Bylaw 15.5.1.2.1.) (Revised: 10/27/05 effective 8/1/06, 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.8 Returning Two-Year Transfer. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete who previously was an initial counter and who transferred to a two-year college shall not be an initial counter upon return to the original institution.

15.5.6.3.9 Delayed Initial Counter Who Does Not Return to School. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete who receives countable financial aid but whose status as an initial counter under this bylaw is delayed until the following academic year shall be counted against the initial limit the following academic year, regardless of whether the student-athlete reports for participation or attends the institution in that academic year.

15.5.6.4 Exceptions.

15.5.6.4.1 Voluntary Withdrawal. [FBS/FCS] An institution may replace a counter who voluntarily withdraws from the football team by providing the financial aid to another student who already has enrolled in the institution and is a member of the football squad. For this replacement to occur, the counter must withdraw prior to the first day of classes or before the first game of the season, whichever is earlier, and provide the institution with a signed statement releasing the institution from its obligation to provide institutional financial aid and verifying the voluntary nature of the withdrawal. The institution may immediately (beginning with the fall term) award the financial aid to a student-athlete who has been a member of the team for at least one academic year and has not previously received athletically related financial aid. A student-athlete who has not been a member of the team for at least one academic year may not receive the financial aid during the fall term, but may receive it in a following term (e.g., spring semester, winter quarter). (Revised: 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05)
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