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re: Class of 2018 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: So Long Old Friend Edition
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:59 pm to River_City_Tider
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:59 pm to River_City_Tider
And that's exactly the case. When recruits say or at least intimate that they don't like the offense, or Lord forbid, they don't think Jalen Hurts is all that, are we supposed to just not discuss that? If that isn't relevant to recruiting then nothing is. The quarterback position is just a little bit important about how an offense goes, and since the offense (hopefully) scores most of the points in a game, it's absolutely relevant. If some folks are too sensitive about it, then that's really their own problem. Maybe they should stay out of any thread that may discuss that kind of thing. Maybe even stay off football message boards altogether.
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:07 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
I think it is fair to point out that the QB is a factor in recruiting, just like it is fair to point out that probably our best WR haul we ever had came the year JH was our starting QB, so it is certainly not an absolute either way.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:10 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
That might have been the case the last couple of years, but it doesn't seem to be the case now.
I don't think any recruit that we're hoping to sign has complained about the vision of our passing game moving forward. At least I haven't heard of any recruit talking negatively since the championship game.
So to me it's a dead issue until the QB situation is resolved in the spring and fall camp.
I don't think any recruit that we're hoping to sign has complained about the vision of our passing game moving forward. At least I haven't heard of any recruit talking negatively since the championship game.
So to me it's a dead issue until the QB situation is resolved in the spring and fall camp.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:13 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Huddie, the people who have been participating in this thread for 18 months don't want to have a discussion revolving around the QB position. They want to discuss who visited, what they said, what people think they are going to do, etc. They don't want to discuss a very hypothetical "What if" that really just turns back into a "Jalen vs Tua" discussion. We don't know what our staff is telling recruits re: next year. We don't know what recruits are telling the staff and thinking re: our QB production. We don't know what the staff thinks recruits want to hear re: our QB situation. And, people are just frickin tired of talking about it altogether and they certainly don't want it invading their quarantined off thread.
You are more than welcome to move it to the QB thread or start your own "QB Production effecting recruiting?" thread, but the overwhelming majority of the people who have been posting together in this thread for over a year don't want it. So let's not do it.
You are more than welcome to move it to the QB thread or start your own "QB Production effecting recruiting?" thread, but the overwhelming majority of the people who have been posting together in this thread for over a year don't want it. So let's not do it.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:16 pm to auisssa
"That might have been the case the last couple of years, but it doesn't seem to be the case now.
I don't think any recruit that we're hoping to sign has complained about the vision of our passing game moving forward. At least I haven't heard of any recruit talking negatively since the championship game. "
Having Tua Tagovailoa at Alabama makes things more attractive and watching what he did in the national championship game, the passing offense is completely different.
“Jalen Hurts probably hurt their chances with Ross. Alabama is probably selling the fact that it’s going to have a passing quarterback and they’re going to open up the offense and pass with Locksley as the new offensive coordinator.
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I don't think any recruit that we're hoping to sign has complained about the vision of our passing game moving forward. At least I haven't heard of any recruit talking negatively since the championship game. "
Having Tua Tagovailoa at Alabama makes things more attractive and watching what he did in the national championship game, the passing offense is completely different.
“Jalen Hurts probably hurt their chances with Ross. Alabama is probably selling the fact that it’s going to have a passing quarterback and they’re going to open up the offense and pass with Locksley as the new offensive coordinator.
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This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:17 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Having Tua Tagovailoa at Alabama makes things more attractive and watching what he did in the national championship game, the passing offense is completely different.
Something like this is fine - linked article specifically discussing the effect of the offense on a recruits decision. All for that.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:20 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Huddie, those points in that article have already been discussed more than enough in this thread. You're beating a dead horse. If you want to belabor it more, please take it elsewhere.
TIA.
TIA.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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And, people are just frickin tired of talking about it altogether and they certainly don't want it invading their quarantined off thread.
This.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:24 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Those quotes are in the past tense. Which means they're not relevant now.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:25 pm to TidalSurge1
And I was responding directly to a post on the previous page...
So your saying the names “Tua” and “Hurts” present in the same sentence triggers people, which leads to a shite storm and derails the thread.
That makes sense. So maybe if the threads were depersonalized, then the same relevant material could be introduced without the deleterious effects. For example, whereas “Jalen’s inability to pass has turned off recruits” would lead to problems, “Our inability to execute the passing game has turned off recruits” might actually add to the discussion without risking any angry backlash.
Edifying. Thank you.
So your saying the names “Tua” and “Hurts” present in the same sentence triggers people, which leads to a shite storm and derails the thread.
That makes sense. So maybe if the threads were depersonalized, then the same relevant material could be introduced without the deleterious effects. For example, whereas “Jalen’s inability to pass has turned off recruits” would lead to problems, “Our inability to execute the passing game has turned off recruits” might actually add to the discussion without risking any angry backlash.
Edifying. Thank you.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:27 pm to auisssa
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Those quotes are in the past tense. Which means they're not relevant now.
If Jalen Hurts it the quarterback next year, then it's still relevant. In fact, if Saban keeps up with the "it's not imperative we make a decision right now" then it's absolutely relevant. My guess is that he is allowing Locksley to intimate to the skill position recruits that there will be a "change" next year.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:29 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
If doesn't mean shite right now.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:30 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
See, this is a situation for you to just respond "Got it - no problem" instead of getting touchy and pissy. A lot of the people in this thread only post in this thread. They only post about recruiting. They, like everyone else, are tired of having every single Alabama football discussion break into a discussion about the QB position in the past and going forward.
People aren't avoiding this because they are touchy snowflakes, they are avoiding it because they are tired of reading the same 4 things over and over. They get it. Jalen sucks at passing. Tua is awesome at passing. Jalen sucking at passing might have maybe possibly hurt us with a few WR prospects. Tua being awesome might help us with a few. It's not some sort of rocket science, everyone gets it.
They just don't want to see a thread about recruiting as a whole to turn into an ornery Huddie and River City vs the World debate. It's not an unreasonable request.
People aren't avoiding this because they are touchy snowflakes, they are avoiding it because they are tired of reading the same 4 things over and over. They get it. Jalen sucks at passing. Tua is awesome at passing. Jalen sucking at passing might have maybe possibly hurt us with a few WR prospects. Tua being awesome might help us with a few. It's not some sort of rocket science, everyone gets it.
They just don't want to see a thread about recruiting as a whole to turn into an ornery Huddie and River City vs the World debate. It's not an unreasonable request.
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:30 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Huddie, please just shut up. The mods have been very patient with you and have asked you to stop. You just keep on and on. Please for the sake of everyone in this thread, shut up and leave. Damn, man.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I wish you would leave my name out of this. I’m not involved in it.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:35 pm to amders44
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I think it is fair to point out that the QB is a factor in recruiting, just like it is fair to point out that probably our best WR haul we ever had came the year JH was our starting QB, so it is certainly not an absolute either way.
Our best WR haul was due to Tua camping with 4,6,and 11. Along with 22.
This is not a bash on JH, but kids in the same class who go to the Opening, and other 7 on 7 camps already hAve a built in relationship before they set foot on campus
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:36 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Perhaps I should be less subtle. Your patterns of posting have convinced me that you are one of the "some people" that I said seem to enjoy stirring others into participating with them in petty and prolonged childish arguments bent on insults, name calling, etc.
And, this is the end of my conversation with you about all of this, itt.
Have a nice day. 
And, this is the end of my conversation with you about all of this, itt.
Have a nice day. Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:37 pm to River_City_Tider
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I wish you would leave my name out of this. I’m not involved in it.
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Even Earl of Tidefans fame has admitted that our recruiting of skilled people was being affected. So the whole thing has had major recruiting implications.
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I only brought it up because Huddie was censured for stating that qbing had affected WR recruits. But I’m not sure really where my comment belongs. Perhaps you educate me so that I can move it to the proper place?
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So your saying the names “Tua” and “Hurts” present in the same sentence triggers people, which leads to a shite storm and derails the thread.
That makes sense. So maybe if the threads were depersonalized, then the same relevant material could be introduced without the deleterious effects. For example, whereas “Jalen’s inability to pass has turned off recruits” would lead to problems, “Our inability to execute the passing game has turned off recruits” might actually add to the discussion without risking any angry backlash.
Edifying. Thank you.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:40 pm to TidalSurge1
But it's like the Kingdom of Heaven. It doesn't really matter what you think, what I think, what anybody else thinks about it. There are opinions and then there is reality, and it really doesn't matter what anybody thinks about it.
It's a football message board. Sometimes a subject will come up in context that some of you don't want to discuss. Then just skip it. It's not complex.
You know, it seems to be lost on some of you guy that keeping on about a subject you say you don't want to discuss just perpetuates the discussion of it. I think some of you are bright enough to understand this. I think.
It's a football message board. Sometimes a subject will come up in context that some of you don't want to discuss. Then just skip it. It's not complex.
You know, it seems to be lost on some of you guy that keeping on about a subject you say you don't want to discuss just perpetuates the discussion of it. I think some of you are bright enough to understand this. I think.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:42 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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But it's like the Kingdom of Heaven. It doesn't really matter what you think, what I think, what anybody else thinks about it. There are opinions and then there is reality, and it really doesn't matter what anybody thinks about it. It's a football message board. Sometimes a subject will come up in context that some of you don't want to discuss. Then just skip it. It's not complex.
Well, that's where you are wrong. This board is made for people who like to use it. If an overwhelming majority of people here like this thread and think that this sort of discussion destroys the thread, then their say matters. They don't want to have to skip 75% of pages.
So let's stop. I feel like we've done this as nicely and gently as possible quite a bit now, but this thread isn't going to be a Tua/Jalen thread, and we aren't going to have mass debates about the topic as it is a discussion that has been done 100 times and is a miniscule portion of overall Alabama recruiting. In summary, you are the one that should just skip it.
Let's move on.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 1:43 pm
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