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Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:18 pm to LovetheLord
Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:18 pm to LovetheLord
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And what respectability you once had went away like Joe’s memory. Shaking my head.
Find the lie. Pres. Trump literally kicked off his campaign off the birther conspiracy, which was never proven true.
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Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:24 pm to stomp
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Orange man wouldn't even be POTUS if the right wasn't screaming "brown man bad!"
That’s doesn’t make a lot of sense. The racist part of his voter base would’ve probably voted for him regardless. Trump wouldn’t have won if a number of Obama voters didn’t vote for him this time, and a lot of people didn’t hate Clinton more.
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:40 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Trump wouldn’t have won if a number of Obama voters didn’t vote for him this time, and a lot of people didn’t hate Clinton more.
Obama and Hillary had nearly the same 65M voters from 2012-2016. Trump pulled in 2M more than Romney because Trump was willing to get dirtier than Romney. If Romney had run a belligerent George Wallace campaign, he'd have reeled in the 2M+ needed to win in 2012.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 8:07 pm to stomp
But here’s the thing, Trump wouldn’t have won had he lost Pennsylvania, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio, and Wisconsin. In each one of those states, Clinton got anywhere from 100K-400K fewer votes then Obama did in 2012. AND each of those states saw a lower number of people that voted either D or R for President.
So yes, it seems more likely Trump won because people hated Clinton more (either voted Trump or neither), and had he not had some Obama voters vote for him this time. You have nothing on your statement on racists.
Which is another thing. Why would people who hate brown people want Democrats to win? Your logic is, Trump won because they voted for him. Suggesting that they normally don’t vote republican either. But if all that has to happen for Democrats to lose, is that group showing up, why don’t they every election? Why didn’t they prevent the brown guy from winning in 2012 and 2016?
So yes, it seems more likely Trump won because people hated Clinton more (either voted Trump or neither), and had he not had some Obama voters vote for him this time. You have nothing on your statement on racists.
Which is another thing. Why would people who hate brown people want Democrats to win? Your logic is, Trump won because they voted for him. Suggesting that they normally don’t vote republican either. But if all that has to happen for Democrats to lose, is that group showing up, why don’t they every election? Why didn’t they prevent the brown guy from winning in 2012 and 2016?
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:29 pm to 1BamaRTR
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But here’s the thing, Trump wouldn’t have won had he lost Pennsylvania, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio, and Wisconsin. In each one of those states, Clinton got anywhere from 100K-400K fewer votes then Obama did in 2012. AND each of those states saw a lower number of people that voted either D or R for President.
Trump won those states by former Obama voters either staying home or voting 3rd+ party. There were not enough Obama-to-Trump voters to make that large of a difference.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 10:51 pm to stomp
So pretty much what I said. I didn’t say it was solely one reason but a combination of those 3. Your racist angle has little support or logic.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 6:47 am to 1BamaRTR
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So pretty much what I said. I didn’t say it was solely one reason but a combination of those 3. Your racist angle has little support or logic.
How many Black people are in his cabinet or were appointed to the judiciary?
Posted on 10/4/20 at 7:31 am to stomp
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Run away when things get hard? Like running for President at age 78 out of sheer obligation?
Now go ahead and contradict your other two paragraphs
He ran because it was the only option the Dems knew they had to possibly beat Trump.
Both parties are broken along with the system that the American people are sick and tired of. The reality is Trump is not a Republican but needed the label because you can not win without it. And the reason he won is people are tired of two parties that could care less about the American people and are completely out of touch with those same people.
The Dems are making one last ditch effort and convinced Biden to run because they had no other viable option. That party is broken as well and both will need an overhaul moving forward.
The Dems are already seeing it with the the likes of the Sanders supporter.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 7:37 am to stomp
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If Romney had run a belligerent George Wallace campaign, he'd have reeled in the 2M+ needed to win in 2012.
Truth be told if the Dems did not run a candidate of color in 2012 Romney would have one.
You are quick to criticize Trump because you think he is racist but yet the Dems now have ran someone of color and a women to pander votes. Not because they were the best person for the job but because they are running out of options. No different to run Harris as the VP pick because of the demographic she covers.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 7:46 am to stomp
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How many Black people are in his cabinet or were appointed to the judiciary?
Please explain to me how the color of someones skin makes them better qualified for a position?
Posted on 10/4/20 at 7:56 am to stomp
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How many Black people are in his cabinet or were appointed to the judiciary?
Oh so you can’t back up your original assertion so you switch to this? What was that again? Trump won the election because he was spewing racist things against brown people.
You pointed out the popular vote but I showed (and you agreed) he won because Clinton was just as unpopular and did he get some Obama voters (I think about 17%).
You never explained to me why those racist whites never voted against the brown man in 2012 and 2016. They hated brown people so much they still let Obama took power. Your logic makes ZERO sense so you jump to your next talking point.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 8:32 am to 1BamaRTR
It’s an example of whitelash. A lot of white voters in the Midwest gave Obama a chance and voted for him both in 2008 and 2012. One reason is because Obama was raised by his white mother, he was able to go into small, predominantly white towns and relate to those white people.
But those voters expected Obama to act white while in office. Obama lost a lot of them during his second term after the Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown deaths. He made the grave error, in their eyes, of giving his perspective as a black man. I’m not going to dig up the article, but it was written about soon after Trump’s victory. Several Obama>Trump voters were interviewed in the article and all basically said that. They felt betrayed by Obama because he was more sympathetic to black grievances than white grievances.
Is that racist? I don’t know. I don’t really know what term to put on it, but Trump campaigned on that white grievance. It didn’t hurt that Hillary’s campaign all but ignored those voters, taking them for granted.
But those voters expected Obama to act white while in office. Obama lost a lot of them during his second term after the Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown deaths. He made the grave error, in their eyes, of giving his perspective as a black man. I’m not going to dig up the article, but it was written about soon after Trump’s victory. Several Obama>Trump voters were interviewed in the article and all basically said that. They felt betrayed by Obama because he was more sympathetic to black grievances than white grievances.
Is that racist? I don’t know. I don’t really know what term to put on it, but Trump campaigned on that white grievance. It didn’t hurt that Hillary’s campaign all but ignored those voters, taking them for granted.
This post was edited on 10/4/20 at 8:34 am
Posted on 10/4/20 at 8:45 am to The Spleen
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Several Obama>Trump voters were interviewed in the article and all basically said that. They felt betrayed by Obama because he was more sympathetic to black grievances
I believe it was said as well by black voters that they felt betrayed by Obama as well because he was not sympathetic enough for the minority.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 8:58 am to TideWarrior
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believe it was said as well by black voters that they felt betrayed by Obama as well because he was not sympathetic enough for the minority.
Yep, that is also true. Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote an essay in 2016 where he touched on that, and about how Obama was in a near impossible situation as it came to racial politics. A lot of white people felt his winning the presidency proved racism was no longer a problem in this country, while many black people felt he should have been more vocal on the racism they still felt was prevalent. He was always bound to let one side down, and he ended up letting both down in many ways.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:22 am to The Spleen
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Obama lost a lot of them during his second term after the Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown deaths. He made the grave error, in their eyes, of giving his perspective as a black man.
Obama made the grave error of speaking about these two situations before receiving all of the facts.
Just like these idiots out rioting right now.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:51 am to TideWarrior
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Please explain to me how the color of someones skin makes them better qualified for a position?
Please explain to me why you don't think there are any qualified Black people to serve in those positions? Because obviously you do if you consider it "pandering"
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:57 am to TideSaint
THis thread is getting cringeworthy... people are showing their true color.... Just sad.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 11:57 am to Panthers4life
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THis thread is getting cringeworthy... people are showing their true color.... Just sad.
Seriously.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 12:33 pm to stomp
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Please explain to me why you don't think there are any qualified Black people to serve in those positions?
Never said that. I only responded to your comment supporting affirmative action. Anyone with common sense knows a person in a position of power(President here) will put not only pick the most qualified person but also someone that is going to support them as well from that position. And yes there are multiple people that are qualified but they also need to fit the second reason for selection. And just because you do not approve of who he picks does not make them unqualified.
Learn to read and maybe seek help for your anger issues.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 1:18 pm to TideWarrior
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Learn to read and maybe seek help for your anger issues.
Some are a lost cause bud. I mean you got a poster in this thread write an essay saying how appalled he was at the people on this board. Yet that same frickin loser a few days prior admitted to driving around shite faced multiple times and being let go by the cops. That total and absolute scum bag is the one appalled? The lack of self awareness really is incredible.
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