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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk

Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 7:59 pm to
just cuz a kid comes off scholarship does not mean he loses his spot on the playing rotation. He and his dad would and should do it if it helps the team. AJJ aint sniffing pro Bb unless he plays in Nepal or Thailand.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:08 pm to
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Have we discussed the little naked General? This is cracking me up


Lmao
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:08 pm to
Close friend on staff. That’s how I get all my info. Thought you knew.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13163 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:09 pm to
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He and his dad would and should do it if it helps the team


Yep. Even if AJ Jr had Sexton's talent there wouldn't be any reason to keep him on scholarship. In state tuition is nothing compared to coach's salary.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:32 pm to
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He does both. Ask Trevor Lacey.


So Grant recruited an elite player, who wasn't ruined as he did just fine at NC St under Gottfried...


Sure you want to use Lacey as an example? It kind of disproves your point



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That team lost to.


No Alabama team has won >12 SEC games in a season since the 80s. Are you seriously trying to argue that the most SECW in almost 30 years is somehow tainted?

gtfo

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player that Grant got the most out of during his time here.


Who said Grant could develop kids? I sure AF didn't

You made claims that just playing for Grant would hurt your future ability to play basketball. Considering Green/Releford/Mitchell have all done just fine at Bama and playing pros NBA/overseas you clearly are wrong

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I've seen a lot of Alabama basketball (I'm betting more than you) and the atmosphere around the program has never been worse


So your argument rests on fans not being excited about Alabama basketball? That is known as a WFE problem. As in Winning Fixes Everything.

You severely underestimate what it takes to kills a program that is a state flagship with a brand loyal following


Auburn has tried to kill its basketball program for decades. Yet the program was able to sell out season tickets in YR1 of a popular coaching hire for a bad team.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 8:40 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:42 pm to
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Yep. Even if AJ Jr had Sexton's talent there wouldn't be any reason to keep him on scholarship. In state tuition is nothing compared to coach's salary.




I mentioned earlier that Alabama could always give a "Retention bonus" to Avery to offset the loss in scholarship.


Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 8:44 pm to
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Have we discussed the little naked General? This is cracking me up


That story is hilarious

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although the franchise did retire his No. 6 jersey after he retired


I knew Avery was good but was he "jersey retired" good?

I thought that was reserved for truly special players
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25267 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:48 pm to
I can't read Jerry Meyer's VIP article because I'm a poor, but the title implies that Walton will be visiting Tuscaloosa this week.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:05 pm to
Avery was one of the best when it came to assists. Also hit the game winner in the NBA Finals that ended the series and gave them the title. He’s one of the best Spurs players ever. I think that shot of his is probably the main reason they wanted his jersey retired lol. It was one of their first (or possibly the very first) championship they had ever won
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13163 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:34 am to
Would y'all rather have Rivny or a grad transfer? I like Rivny long term, but I'm worried about our point guard position this coming season. I think Ingram may move back to playing point guard this year though, and we don't need 4 point guards on the roster.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:40 am to
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Grant may not be the anti-christ, but he almost single-handily destroyed our program and ruined a lot of talented players along the way.

No.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6040 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:42 am to
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Would y'all rather have Rivny or a grad transfer?


I like what I hear and the limited clips I've seen on Rivny. He seems like a guy with high upside. Unless we could lock-down a grad transfer PG who could, no-question, come in and start right away, I'd take Rivny. While I haven't given up on next season and think we have a great shot at another NCAAT season, I'd much rather roll the dice with Butler/Ingram at lead guard and further prepare ourselves for what should be a huge season in 2019-20.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:23 am to
I feel the same way
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13163 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:59 am to
I agree. If we take Rivny, we'll only have two scholarship seniors on the roster. We'll need someone to transfer out, probably Giddens since he'll be able to grad transfer, to make room for Walton assuming Kira and Watford fill the first two spots.

ESPN has Herbert and Petty going pro after this season though, so we may have a lot of spots open.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:14 pm to
Depends on the GT. To me the question also becomes who do you want Rivny or another available scholarship in next year’s class? I’d like Rivny but I also want at least a three man class next year too.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:17 pm to
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but he almost single-handily destroyed our program


What are you talking about? The program was so damaged that in the 3 years after Grant, Bama has made 2 NITs and a NCAAT appearance.

Can Auburn sign up for some of that program ruining? That's more postseason appearances than AU has made in 15 years







This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6040 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Depends on the GT. To me the question also becomes who do you want Rivny or another available scholarship in next year’s class? I’d like Rivny but I also want at least a three man class next year too


With Norris and Hall set to depart, it would only take one of our guys declaring early or transferring to make that a possibility. Considering we've had 2 transfers each off-season under Avery, I'd expect a 3-man class to be a bare minimum for 2019.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Depends on the GT. To me the question also becomes who do you want Rivny or another available scholarship in next year’s class? I’d like Rivny but I also want at least a three man class next year too.



Why can't you have both Rivny + 3 man class?

I don't see a realistic scenario where none of Giddens/Ingram/Mack grad transfer after next season if not other players leave

Giddens - He likely is overtaken this year already

Ingram - Ingram is unlikely to hold onto minutes if Petty/Herb/Mack returning + adding PGs Butler/Lewis and some SF minutes from Watford


Mack - I doubt Mack transfers, but if he can't beat out Ingram, just copy/paste that argument here

Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25267 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 3:26 pm to
LINK

Kira Lewis update
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 3:29 pm to
We can. Didn’t mean to insinuate otherwise; only that it would require roster attrition.
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