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Posted on 3/27/18 at 7:23 pm to Tide or Die87
He made a couple more shots in the tournament than Coleman has ever made. The kid is a winner. We don't need to bring back more Anthony Grant guys.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 7:25 pm to BigBird09
I think Big Bird is Coleman's PR guy. The dude was the worst shooter I've ever seen at this level and took ridiculous shots that hurt the team. We just started getting the Anthony Grant out of our program. No need to go backwards.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 8:01 pm to GenesChin
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Seems like the consensus is that neither Coleman/Avery JR are very good point guards
Another consensus, Schaeffer should play more
I'll take the unpopular dissenting stance.
Protecting Schaeffer would likely change everything we do on defense against the majority of opponents.
While he definitely seems to have a good feel for running an offense and seems to be a good shooter, I'd really question whether he's athletic or big/strong enough to not get his passes continually tipped, get muscled out, have a lot of trouble getting his shot off etc. . .
Let's not forget that he comes in when games are done and dusted for the most part and defenders aren't really going at 100% intensity or just gambling for steals.
Pretty much the same point of the game where AJ dribbles forward and looks at the defense as well.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 8:12 pm to wm72
Yes, Lawson does come in and play in garbage minutes when the game is basically over. But I also remember a couple years ago, we were losing at home to Ole Miss and we’re showing no energy and couldn’t make a shot. Avery put Lawson in and we went on a run, took the lead, and never looked back. And it was bc of Lawson being in the game. It’s not like he only looks good in garbage minutes. He looks good almost any time he comes in
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 8:26 pm to wm72
He played meaningful minutes against Memphis and against Miss.State in the SEC tournament last year and played well in both.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:23 pm to Bamafan15
I'm not gonna go too far downgrading one of our players, especially a walk on that seems to have a great attitude and probably helps the team out a lot in practice.
I really hope you're both right and he turns it on this summer and plays valuable minutes next year. Always believe players can certainly improve-- sometimes in leaps and bounds --from one year to the next.
And, yes, he was pretty good against Memphis--so was AJ though, by the way --and I do remember that Ole Miss game.
However, that's still a bit different than teams preparing for him playing and going at his weaknesses.
I'll just say that I see a lot of potential reasons so far (like those I mentioned above) for why he's probably not winning more PT in practice compared to AJ.
I really hope you're both right and he turns it on this summer and plays valuable minutes next year. Always believe players can certainly improve-- sometimes in leaps and bounds --from one year to the next.
And, yes, he was pretty good against Memphis--so was AJ though, by the way --and I do remember that Ole Miss game.
However, that's still a bit different than teams preparing for him playing and going at his weaknesses.
I'll just say that I see a lot of potential reasons so far (like those I mentioned above) for why he's probably not winning more PT in practice compared to AJ.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:48 pm to CrimsonTider98
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I think Big Bird is Coleman's PR guy.
He doesn't need a PR guy. His numbers last year can do the talking.
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We just started getting the Anthony Grant out of our program.
Again... Obasohan. Randolph. Releford. Stop falling back on the guy that recruited him as a reason to dislike (the better word for you is probably "hate") the kid.
If we landed a mid-major grad transfer with the same numbers as Coleman disguised under a different name, this board would be ecstatic to have him in the fold.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:06 pm to wm72
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I'll just say that I see a lot of potential reasons so far(like those I mentioned above) for why he's probably not winning more PT in practice compared to AJ.
I see just one obvious reason. Can't blame Avery for it, but it is frustrating.
I get that it's not a large sample size, but Schaffer does have a better defensive rating for his career. And while people try to use the defense to explain his lack of PT, he hasn't once looked bad on defense when he's on the court. In fact he's made several hustle plays and a good amount of steals.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:12 pm to BigBird09
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. Obasohan. Randolph. Releford.
All guys who improved throughout their careers, but never won anything. Avery needed to clean house and get his guys in their. I'm glad JC was able to improve his numbers at Samford. It proves my idea that the kid is skilled and can play at a smaller level, while not having the game or the size to succeed in the SEC.
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:13 pm to CrimsonTider98
Anthony Grant was an unredeemable disaster. One thing I give Avery credit for is that he knew he had to rid the entire program of his influence.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:38 pm to CrimsonTider98
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Anthony Grant was an unredeemable disaster.
Nah. He definitely wasn't a disaster. He just couldn't get us over the mediocre plateau
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One thing I give Avery credit for is that he knew he had to rid the entire program of his influence.
Avery still has multiple coaches and support staff from the Grant era fwiw.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:47 pm to Bryant91092
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Bryant91092
don't you think the tough schedule avatar and Johnny Jones Spiderman sig haven't aged too well?Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:49 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Ehh we went 20-16 and the season had a meh feeling overall although it was great to see us finally make the tourney again. I'll switch back to something supportive when I think he's a good coach.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:50 pm to Bryant91092
Grant wasn't mediocre, he was terrible. Look at his record against top 25, 50 teams. He would have lost 20 games with the schedule we had this year. The end of his tenure was the lowest this program has ever been (by far). We had like 2000 people showing up to games. Grant almost single-handely destroyed our program.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:52 pm to CrimsonTider98
And I'm aware that Pettway was technically a Grant holdover, but Grant didn't hire Pettway and in fact demoted him. He works much better with Avery.
Bottom Line: By the time Avery came in, the players on the roster were too far gone. Grant had screwed them up so badly, that he needed to clean house and get his own guys in here.
Bottom Line: By the time Avery came in, the players on the roster were too far gone. Grant had screwed them up so badly, that he needed to clean house and get his own guys in here.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:53 pm to CrimsonTider98
I still remember the end of his last season. Coleman was almost completely empty. That was such an embarrassment smh. But it was Grant’s fault. He didn’t deserve for fans to show up if he was gonna continuously miss the tourney every year
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:54 pm to BigBird09
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And while people try to use the defense to explain his lack of PT, he hasn't once looked bad on defense when he's on the court
When he actually got meaningful minutes in the Canada exhibition games, he got absolutely worked.
I think Lawson should get some minutes when the offense has hit a roadblock, but some of ya'll act like Avery is playing a quadriplegic son over Lebron
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:55 pm to CrimsonTider98
He consistently made the NIT which is mediocre, not terrible.
Only 4 games different than our current coach. I wanted Grant gone but the revisionist history acting like he was some embarrassment to the game of basketball is ridiculous.
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He would have lost 20 games with the schedule we had this year.
Only 4 games different than our current coach. I wanted Grant gone but the revisionist history acting like he was some embarrassment to the game of basketball is ridiculous.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:56 pm to Bamafan15
Grant's arrogance and standoffish behavior in the midst of our futility is something I'll never forget. Dude was the worst coach our athletics program's ever had other than Ears Whitwhorth. He's also been a complete failure at Dayton. Some fans there already want to run him off (don't blame them).
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