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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk
Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:28 am to Bamainva40
Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:28 am to Bamainva40
If we could get a guy that could recruit and had much more coaching experience, then we would be crazy not to make room.He is a holdover from Grant, and I understood keeping him for Avery, but now if Avery thinks he can build a better staff without Pettway, then he should be able to.
Like I said, I think it would benefit Pett as well if he were to go elsewhere and coach for a time.
Like I said, I think it would benefit Pett as well if he were to go elsewhere and coach for a time.
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:40 am to Cobrasize
I can see your point , but that sounds like making a change for the sake of change.
Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:47 am to Bamainva40
That's pretty much what it is. I believe things can get stagnant and new coaches bring different things to a program. I don't have a problem with Pett. I just believe he should go learn from a different coach and get some new ideas and experiences. I believe whoever replaces him as long as he is experienced, would bring fresh energy and new ideas.
Posted on 3/25/18 at 3:06 am to Cobrasize
I definitely don't disagree with that line of thinking. Problem is let's say we change this year or even immediately...It'll cost us big most likely in that 2019 class. Pett has been a big part of building those ties with Lewis and Watford. That's something to ponder, not saying you're wrong on new ideas and everything but don't see where Pett has been substandard. My thinking was that pelphrey was brought in for the things u mentioned.
Posted on 3/25/18 at 3:32 am to Bamainva40
I understand about relationships that have been built, but what if we bring in a guy with better relationships? Whoever was brought in would be coming with his own relationships with possibly the same guys. You can't hold back your program because you're scared of losing a kid. If we made a change from Pett, it would have to be for an experienced coach with his own connections to kids and high school coaches. You don't blindly do any of these things.
Posted on 3/25/18 at 3:58 am to Cobrasize
That's true, just can't think of anyone off hand from anywhere else who has those ties. We were pretty early on both but there's always a chance there's someone else.
Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:44 am to Bryant91092
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Me and Bird were pros at reading into twitter back a few years ago but you and a few other guys take it to a whole new level
Those were the days. I used to be able to spin some great recruiting news off of a kid's tweet about his GF
Posted on 3/25/18 at 8:53 am to Cobrasize
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As far as him calling out sets, he's a damn coach, he's supposed to do that. It's not like he's creating miracles out there
Calling out the opponents play as soon as they get into it is pretty impressive, and by no means something every coach does. Sorry Cobra, but I haven't seen you give a good reason for firing Pettway. We could get someone better isn't a good reason, and honestly probably isn't true. All of Avery's connections are in the NBA, and just last year when we needed an assistant, we got a mediocre replacement.
Coach Ya was supposed to be a good recruiter. He didn't even get us in serious discussion for any of the players he had connections with. We know Pettway can recruit to Bama. I don't think we could find someone we know would be better than Pettway to take the second assistant position.
Posted on 3/25/18 at 8:57 am to TomRollTideRitter
Couldn't have said it better Tom. Change for change sake isn't always a smart way to go .
Posted on 3/25/18 at 8:58 am to TomRollTideRitter
As for him taking the assistant HC role at a smaller program, it might help him become a better coach, but I don't see that benefiting his career at all. #2 assistants at power conference schools very often get hired straight into head coaching roles at mid-major programs.
Honestly, I expect Pettway may get a HC gig at a school soon. He identified Collin Sexton, he was the primary recruiter on all of our top 10 class signees, and he'd bring great energy into a program. If I was Detroit for example, I would hire Pettway next year assuming they don't have a big turnaround.
Honestly, I expect Pettway may get a HC gig at a school soon. He identified Collin Sexton, he was the primary recruiter on all of our top 10 class signees, and he'd bring great energy into a program. If I was Detroit for example, I would hire Pettway next year assuming they don't have a big turnaround.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/25/18 at 10:25 am to TomRollTideRitter
Today is Avery's Birthday!!
Posted on 3/25/18 at 1:54 pm to mistaken4193
Women’s team up 37-36 at the half at Virginia Tech in the WNIT Elite 8
Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:30 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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might help him become a better coach, but I don't see that benefiting his career at all.
There are always good PT assistant jobs for good recruiters. There rarely are HC jobs for guys who are just recruiters.
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#2 assistants at power conference schools very often get hired straight into head coaching roles at mid-major programs.
#2 at elite programs who have won a ton.
Pettway is neither the #2 nor is he part of a Duke type success run at the moment
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expect Pettway may get a HC gig at a school soon.
One of the other problems with staying at Bama is his network of coaching relationships is limited
So he gets this job, he has to then assemble a staff likely with a ton of people he has never worked with before
Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:51 pm to TomRollTideRitter
The assistants rotate scouting and game plan development. That’s why you’ll see an assistant heavily involved one game and then they look like they’re barely paying attention the next game.
The way I understand it Pettway did not have many scouting assignments last year so he could focus on recruiting. Georgetown offered him the #2 assistant position, but we let Simon go and promoted Pettway to keep him around. Have heard that Avery trusts Pettway’s eye for talent. If Pettway wants a player then pretty good chance he’ll get an offer.
The way I understand it Pettway did not have many scouting assignments last year so he could focus on recruiting. Georgetown offered him the #2 assistant position, but we let Simon go and promoted Pettway to keep him around. Have heard that Avery trusts Pettway’s eye for talent. If Pettway wants a player then pretty good chance he’ll get an offer.
Posted on 3/25/18 at 2:54 pm to Gongora
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Georgetown offered him the #2 assistant position
I'm a Georgetwon fan, and I'd love to have his recruiting there but he is smart to have turned them down.
I'm not sold on Patrick Ewing and staff is a good place to develop as a coach. It would near guarantee him getting type casted as a recruiter
Posted on 3/25/18 at 3:23 pm to Gongora
Damn Georgetown fell off a cliff....use to consistently be a top seed and havent heard anything about them since they lost to FGCU.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 3/25/18 at 5:58 pm to mistaken4193
Duke-Kansas is a damn good game
Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:04 pm to mistaken4193
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Damn Georgetown fell off a cliff
Georgetown had a lot of factors that were dragging the program that were building up and John Thompson 3 wasn't good enough
-Declining recruiting results, didn't adapt to AAU trends
-GTown takes pride in not going for 1 and Done players
-Terrible facilities until 2016 update
-Georgetown has academic problems w admissions/staying eligible
-Coach JT3 X's Os weren't great to begin with and couldn't adapt with game
-Play at Wizards arena far off campus, students don't show up + GTown alumni are Nationwide not concentrated in DC
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use to consistently be a top seed and havent heard anything about them since they lost to FGCU.
They snagged a 4 seed while back but the FGCU game was the edge of the cliff for the most part
Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:13 pm to GenesChin
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#2 at elite programs who have won a ton.
Pettway is neither the #2 nor is he part of a Duke type success run at the moment
I don't think this is true. I don't feel like researching it though.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:15 pm to GenesChin
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Play at Wizards arena far off campus, students don't show up + GTown alumni are Nationwide not concentrated in DC
They only have several thousand students. Like most Big East programs, they mostly have sidewalk fans.
This post was edited on 3/25/18 at 7:15 pm
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