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re: Why should Eason start over Fromm?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:59 am to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:59 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Seems as if the team is behind Fromm but then again I'm just a fan.
Eason is a popular guy. He and Nauta seem to be particularly close.
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:01 pm to UGATiger26
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I'm not too concerned about this. At least not at this point.
It's one thing if the QB on the field is struggling, and players think that another QB gives them a better chance.
But as long as whoever is the QB is making plays and winning games, there is no reason for anyone to be unhappy.
Forget the football-playing part. Eason is their friend and is in danger of losing his job after an injury. If Fromm stays the starter, he'll likely transfer. It's personal.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:01 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Just start Fromm this game saying Eason is not ready yet. Then start him when we play Mizzou to see how he does.
Eason was 7-5 as a starter he's had his audition. If we start him and he busts, this momentum that we are enjoying could disappear and for what? I wouldnt bring home a new car that I thought ran well and lift the hood to see if I could work on it. Just ride this momentum and when it stalls or stops then try Eason?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:02 pm to gamatt53
How can we judge Ramsey on such a small sample size, playing snaps with 3rd string linemen and receivers?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:06 pm to GADAWG2017
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Eason was 7-5 as a starter he's had his audition. If we start him and he busts, this momentum that we are enjoying could disappear and for what
Well yeah, our team is the exact same as last year so...
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:09 pm to drunkensailor89
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drunkensailor89
I agree with most of what you said outside your Eason to Mason comparison.
Eason has 1st round/top 5 NFL pick potential. Mason never did.
I've also been very pro-Fromm and think he might already be better than Eason. I just don't think we as fans have given Eason a chance to show improvement. Imagine if Stafford got injured 2 series into his sophomore year. He wasn't really a stud until he was a junior either.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:13 pm to Dawgsontop34
Kirby gets to see a lot more than we do but from the 13 games Eason played in last year to the spring game and then through 3 series this year I just don't see any difference in the guy. I hope we stay with Fromm until he proves he can't handle the job.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:17 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Well yeah, our team is the exact same as last year so...
No... we don't have the same team but we do have the exact two running backs that are suddenly finding new holes to run through. We have the 10th highest rated QB in the nation with a 172 rating that makes defenses pay for stacking the box and who hits his receivers in stride instead of tackling them himself by throwing darts that they miss repeatedly. But you would probably change that? I wouldn't
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:18 pm to GeorgiaBoy
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through 3 series this year
You realize this helps prove my point?
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hope we stay with Fromm until he proves he can't handle the job.
I agree.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:21 pm to GADAWG2017
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We have the 10th highest rated QB in the nation with a 172 rating that makes defenses pay for stacking the box
Pay attention gamatt.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:22 pm to GADAWG2017
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we do have the exact two running backs that are suddenly finding new holes to run through
I do believe Fromm has had an impact on that. Same with the offensive line changes.
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But you would probably change that? I wouldn't
I don't want to change that at all. I just think a lot of us are being unfair to Eason. Eason obviously needed to learn to put some more touch on his passes, and make better decisions in the offseason. I'm just not ready to say he didn't learn that based on the incredibly limited action we saw when he was probably a little overhyped in the first two series of the season.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:25 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Forget the football-playing part. Eason is their friend and is in danger of losing his job after an injury. If Fromm stays the starter, he'll likely transfer. It's personal.
And Fromm is what? Some masked stranger who maliciously stole Eason's job from him? I'd imagine that Fromm is friends with his teammates too.
Guys lose starting jobs all the time. Depending on how things play out, sure, Eason might decide to transfer.
But like I said, at this point, I'm not concerned about some sort of rebellion amidst the team. If Fromm keeps playing well, people will be happy. Especially the team.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:26 pm to Spaceman Spiff
The question that I'd like to get an answer to is this: what does Eason bring to the table that Fromm doesn't that gives him the nod?
At this point, Fromm has essentially played 4 complete games, including a road game against a quality opponent and a conference game against a good defense. If we ignore the two series Eason got before his injury, Eason has 7 more games under his belt than Fromm. Assuming Fromm starts again against Tennessee, that will be a 6 game difference (half a season). The "experience" argument gets weaker with each game Fromm plays and Eason sits.
Not to mention that Fromm has the most recent game experience. If we again remove the two series from the first game, we're talking about almost 10 months since Eason has played more than a couple of series against live opponents in a game-time situation (not counting the G-Day game or scrimmages). Fromm has been in the thick of it for 4 games now and he's improved every game.
There is an assumption that Eason has made a big jump between last season and this one. Even if that's true, what (other than experience) does that get us that starting Fromm doesn't?
At this point, Fromm has essentially played 4 complete games, including a road game against a quality opponent and a conference game against a good defense. If we ignore the two series Eason got before his injury, Eason has 7 more games under his belt than Fromm. Assuming Fromm starts again against Tennessee, that will be a 6 game difference (half a season). The "experience" argument gets weaker with each game Fromm plays and Eason sits.
Not to mention that Fromm has the most recent game experience. If we again remove the two series from the first game, we're talking about almost 10 months since Eason has played more than a couple of series against live opponents in a game-time situation (not counting the G-Day game or scrimmages). Fromm has been in the thick of it for 4 games now and he's improved every game.
There is an assumption that Eason has made a big jump between last season and this one. Even if that's true, what (other than experience) does that get us that starting Fromm doesn't?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:28 pm to RhodeDawg
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We have the 10th highest rated QB in the nation with a 172 rating that makes defenses pay for stacking the box
So you agree with me that the running game is opening up the passing game then(because the box is stacked)? Thanks for coming around.
Having that great running game is allowing our receivers to run free on play action and allow our freshman QB to have easy uncontested throws. He has done great so far but I'm not crowning him better than Eason until he plays from behind in a situation where we are forced to throw into tight windows. Hell I don't think we have even seen him in a two minute offense situation yet.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:30 pm to UGATiger26
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But as long as whoever is the QB is making plays and winning games, there is no reason for anyone to be unhappy.
No matter who is starting, at some point the starter will make a bad decision/play, or we lose a game, and the second guessing will begin. And it will get ugly. If Eason comes back and is installed as the starter, and we lose a game people will say Fromm would have won the game. If Fromm keeps the job and we lose the game people will say Eason had the experience that would have won the game.
We already see it when people say Richt would have lost the ND game and the Miss. State game.
Nobody knows, but everybody wants to say it like they know.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:32 pm to Dawgsontop34
If Eason was a senior and we had won the east with him or even 10 games I would've been concerned but don't you think this is the process that Kirby brought with him from Saban? I understand the propensity to want to develop a QB it has served us well in the past. I think Eason will transfer and that is scary but I think Fromm will be and is our best option and that is what will happen until he does something to deserve to be taken out. That being said, if Fromm were injured and Eason came in and lit it up, I'd be all for him keeping his job until he lost it
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:32 pm to gamatt53
quote:Chicken and egg. Our ground game is strong but our OL and TE blocking has been suspect (last year and to start this season). Opponents stack the box and we struggle if we can't effectively run play-action. Saturday showed that we can now make them pay for stacking the box. Throwing the ball helps our run game and running the ball helps our passing game.
So you agree that the running game is opening up the passing game then? Thanks for coming around.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:36 pm to FooManChoo
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The question that I'd like to get an answer to is this: what does Eason bring to the table that Fromm doesn't that gives him the nod?
Arm strength. And Fromm brings things to the table that Eason does not. That's what makes this so difficult.
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The "experience" argument gets weaker with each game Fromm plays and Eason sits.
Absolutely it does.
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There is an assumption that Eason has made a big jump between last season and this one.
Typically this happens, but not always.
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Even if that's true, what (other than experience) does that get us that starting Fromm doesn't?
Again arm strength. They both bring different things t the table. Physically it is Eason and the intangibles favor Fromm. If Fromm had Eason's arm there would be no discussion.
While this is just my opinion, I give intangibles a slight edge over physical attributes....but it's very slight.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:37 pm to FooManChoo
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Saturday showed that we can now make them pay for stacking the box.
It showed that we can run the ball with a stacked box hence why our receivers weren't even covered on play action. The test will be when we can't run the ball against a stacked box and are forced to throw it around.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:38 pm to Dawgsontop34
Did you see anything in the Spring game that made you think "damn, that kid has really improved!"? Did the 2 poorly thrown balls in his 3 series this year make you think that?
We all thought Fromm only looked better than Eason in the Spring game because he was throwing against the 2's. Maybe we were all wrong.
We all thought Fromm only looked better than Eason in the Spring game because he was throwing against the 2's. Maybe we were all wrong.
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