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re: Why should Eason start over Fromm?

Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:40 pm to
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I think Eason will transfer and that is scary


I think Eason transfers only if we sign Fields. Otherwise he will feel like he can win the job back. We sign Fields and I think Eason will transfer. If this happens we will be wishing we signed two QB's in the 2018 class.

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That being said, if Fromm were injured and Eason came in and lit it up, I'd be all for him keeping his job until he lost it


It's a dangerous precedent to have players losing their jobs because they get injured. I understand your reasoning, but from a players standpoint, they would not like it. However, the longer Eason is out the more acclimated the team becomes with the idea that Fromm is their leader.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:42 pm to
If a job requires 3 different skill sets, A,b, and C.... and you have two candidates that rate as follows-


Candidate One

Skill A- 10
Skill B- 5
Skill C- 5


Candidate Two

Skill A- 8
Skill B- 8
Skill C- 8



Who do you hire?
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:45 pm to
We are in a great position to have a five star qb as a backup.

He'll be done after this year so it is critical to sign another badass right away.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:45 pm to
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It showed that we can run the ball with a stacked box hence 


No. Saturday showed that *when* a defense stacks the box we will make them pay with a vertical passing game.
Essentially Foo is correct, we need both. It's called a balanced offense.
We didn't have an effective passing game last year so defenses stacked the box and shut our run game down.

You are correct in that a running game will open play - action, but we can't run the ball effectively without a passing threat.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:47 pm to
I think there's a chance Kirby strings Eason along with playing time and empty promises for another year just to get a 2019 badass to commit behind Fromm. The 2018 class already knows better.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:47 pm to
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And Fromm is what? Some masked stranger who maliciously stole Eason's job from him? I'd imagine that Fromm is friends with his teammates too.

Guys lose starting jobs all the time. Depending on how things play out, sure, Eason might decide to transfer.

But like I said, at this point, I'm not concerned about some sort of rebellion amidst the team. If Fromm keeps playing well, people will be happy. Especially the team.

I'm sure there's a faction that would want Fromm. Maybe even a bigger faction.

I'm not proposing giving Eason the job back. I'm only advocating at least the appearance of a competition to minimize any internal strife in the middle of the season.
Posted by GADAWG2017
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:48 pm to
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It's a dangerous precedent to have players losing their jobs because they get injured. I understand your reasoning, but from a players standpoint, they would not like it.


I agree but wouldn't you think we asked for those types of results based on this merit based philosophy we got when we opted for Kirby to bring in a Saban like system. We have made our transfer rules more stringent.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted by gamatt53
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:49 pm to
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we can't run the ball effectively without a passing threat.


Eason is a greater downfield threat than Fromm (can throw it farther and fit into tighter windows) so your theory says we should run it better with Eason.

The team is running the ball so well because they are executing blocks not because Fromm hit some wide open uncovered receivers.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:49 pm to
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think Eason transfers only if we sign Fields. Otherwise he will feel like he can win the job back. We sign Fields and I think Eason will transfer. If this happens we will be wishing we signed two QB's in the 2018 class.


Disagree. Eason transfers if he is the backup. Fields has nothing to do with his decision. We will have 2 qbs on the roster imo, and fields will play.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Eason is a greater downfield threat than Fromm (can throw it farther and fit into tighter windows) so your theory says we should run it better with Eason.


Nope. Fromm can make a d pay more often with more accuracy downfield.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:51 pm to
I didn't see Eason do that last year.
I have seen Fromm do it this year.
Is Eason able to? I'm not sure but Fromm is from what I've actually seen this year.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:52 pm to
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dangerous precedent to have players losing their jobs because they get injured.


That's not what would happen. Fromm is gonna win the job in practice. Best guy plays. Players like that accountability.
Posted by gamatt53
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:53 pm to
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I didn't see Eason do that last year.


You miss the throw to take the lead against TN last year with 19 seconds left? That was one of the most impressive throws in UGA football history. Fromm hasn't shown that he can put a ball in a window like that in the clutch.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:54 pm to
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That's not what would happen. Fromm is gonna win the job in practice. Best guy plays. Players like that accountability.

We hope. Eason had it won when they were both practicing. That's why we have this dilemma.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:56 pm to
I saw Eason do it twice last year...UNC and Tennessee.

I've seen Fromm do it in every game this year except App. St.
Posted by Lucius Clay
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:57 pm to
What happens if Fromm struggles or makes some freshman mistakes, Eason goes in and does great and gets a win in relief.

Does it flip back to Eason's job? Or is Eason officially a backup quarterback now and he only comes in as the reliever?

It would be nice to see both of these guys against a truly good team with a bad-arse defense...which we really haven't faced thus far. (No, I wouldn't count Mississippi State or Notre Dame this year as such).

Have to wonder how much of our success this year is due to: 1) An offensive line with another year under its belt, 2) A healthier Chubb and the addition of Swift, 3) Better receiver play with folks like Hardman in the mix and emergence of Godwin, 4) Vastly better defense.

In short, whether the QB is Fromm or Eason, this is a way better team around the quarterback compared to last year. Fromm is benefiting. The question is, will Eason when he plays? If not, then we know he hasn't progressed.



Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:57 pm to
Consistency.

No one is arguing that Eason doesn't have a cannon.

Fromm is able to read the D and then execute a passing threat consistently.

That's the difference in the 2 so far.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:59 pm to
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hope. Eason had it won when they were both practicing. That's why we have this dilemma.


I am not convinced of that. I do know Starting Fromm would have looked bad before the season. It won't now.
Posted by gamatt53
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Fromm is able to read the D and then execute a passing threat consistently.


I have seen his first read be wide open on play action plenty of times and he hit them as expected. I have not seen him have to execute a passing game much in obvious passing downs or lead from behind in a scenario where he has to make plays with his arm.

I know Eason can do that. I would have to have faith right now that Fromm can ( I hope does).
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 1:03 pm
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