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re: The Richt apologists are firmly seated on the wrong side of history
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:34 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:34 pm to FooManChoo
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Florida's coach is no rookie
Sorry, he spent two years at fricking Colorado State honing his craft before he came and started pushing Richt's shite in.
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Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:35 pm to I B Freeman
quote:1. It's not my responsibility to tell a coach anything. Go bitch at the administration if you want him fired.
How long do you want us to wait while you figure out how to tell a coach how to do his job???
2. There's more to winning than just showing up, as winning games is the result of many things that happen on and off the field. Those "things" are what I'm asking about. You know, specifics.
3. I don't care if CMR stays or goes. I like him, but I want us to win games. However, I don't think he should be fired until the administration understands the root cause of why CMR isn't winning like he should, because I don't want to see another bad hire replace him.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:36 pm to FooManChoo
Dude...this didn't begin yesterday....he needs to go....bye!..adios!...let's start looking for a new coach now...there is a method to this..if we get a window to make a great hire at some point...lets throw some dough out there and make it happen....lets get a killer...a scary killer that will have our team ready to rip heads off...we've tried the old...we need new blood....
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:39 pm to FinleyStreet
quote:I do think there's at least a partial link between Saban's strategies and his wins, however what I'm asking for is specifics, because Saban isn't some magical football fairy that waves a wand and wins ball games. If Saban is doing something (or many thing) right and Richt is doing those things wrong, I want to know (or at least have the administration know) so we can improve. I don't think getting someone different will magically make us better. It has to be the right person with the right approach to football, and the right approach would have to be "better" than Richts. How do we know what will be better if we don't take the time to figure out what Richt's doing wrong?
I'm not sure what your angle is. Nobody is privy to the specific Xs and Os of Saban or Meyer or what they do to prepare teams. We know they get consistent results on the field and Richt does not, which is how most people base their decisions. Results. Are you trying to imply that there is no link between Sabans strategies and the W's he earns?
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:40 pm to miledawg
A lot of empty seats that show up on television at Sanford Stadium is the ONLY way a change will be made. The ONLY way....
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:41 pm to HellRaisingDawg
quote:Um.. you must have missed my whole point. I'm not arguing to keep Richt. I'm arguing that we shouldn't fire him without the right information to make a good replacement hire. Wanting him fired because the fanbase is emotional isn't a good reason, IMO.[/quote]
If you are arguing to keep Richt, you are fricking doing it wrong, bro.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:42 pm to FooManChoo
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3. I don't care if CMR stays or goes. I like him, but I want us to win games. However, I don't think he should be fired until the administration understands the root cause of why CMR isn't winning like he should, because I don't want to see another bad hire replace him.
Do you work for a school or in a government agency by chance?
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:42 pm to VADawg
quote:You seem to have a great place to start with your argument of why he should be canned, then. Start with the specifics of why he isn't taking advantage of the recruits in the state and what a "better" coach would do differently.
Lol like this isn't a HUGE advantage that we don't abuse...
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:43 pm to FooManChoo
dude..what are you trying to analyze.....hiring a better coach will make our team better....we need to find that guy...
Why are some businesses much better than other businesses?
Why are some businesses much better than other businesses?
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:44 pm to I B Freeman
quote:No. Worked for the CDC for a few years while in college but I'm in the private sector where data-driven analysis is what is important.
Do you work for a school or in a government agency by chance?
For the record, I get that his record against top teams is ad. What I'd like to know is what, exactly, he's doing wrong so that if and when we replace him, we don't make the same mistakes with the new guy.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:45 pm to FooManChoo
We need to begin the search now....and try to make that happen before next year....CMR can retire at the end of the season...but it's a leap of faith...we may be left walking the desert for a couple of years...so what...if it leads us to the promised land.. 
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:46 pm to redandblackattack
quote:I want to define "better" using specifics. Better is subjective unless you have a standard to compare two things. I'm not against hiring a "better" coach (I want the best coach possible), but I want to make sure we get a better coach and not just a different coach. If we don't know what we're doing wrong now, how will we know who to hire to lead us to victories in the future? If we don't know, it's just a shot in the dark.
dude..what are you trying to analyze.....hiring a better coach will make our team better....we need to find that guy...
Why are some businesses much better than other businesses?
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:46 pm to FooManChoo
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Um.. you must have missed my whole point.
I suppose I did. I can't be bothered to know the subject matter upon which I am commenting...damn it, man!
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I'm not arguing to keep Richt.
WHEW!
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'm arguing that we shouldn't fire him without the right information to make a good replacement hire.
"We" aren't firing him. I suppose I'm gonna trust that the AD will fire him and have a plan to move forward in place when HE does so.
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Wanting him fired because the fanbase is emotional isn't a good reason, IMO
I'm not emotional...why do people keep saying that I am emotional? Am I emotional? I can't be emotional...
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:47 pm to FooManChoo
I feel like you're over analyzing it. If someone sucks at their job, they get fired. The "why" doesn't matter.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:49 pm to FooManChoo
Yes..but better is "objective" if it results in more wins and improved results...
2 options...1. hire a proven winner if we get that window...
2. hire a new up and commer and prepare for whatever follows..
UGA can be selective and paced about this...
The real question is this...Will UGA put forth the money needed to hire the right guy?
2 options...1. hire a proven winner if we get that window...
2. hire a new up and commer and prepare for whatever follows..
UGA can be selective and paced about this...
The real question is this...Will UGA put forth the money needed to hire the right guy?
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:59 pm to redandblackattack
There's not going to be regime change as long as there are old gray haired farts wearing red pants and drinking Bourbon at the games, year in and year out, regardless of the win-loss column. When folks start to cancel season tickets and stop making the big donations, that's when a message will be sent.
The administration does not have to pay a Saban-like salary or demand Saban-like results because we are still rolling in dough while never winning anything of importance in the last 10 years.
The administration does not have to pay a Saban-like salary or demand Saban-like results because we are still rolling in dough while never winning anything of importance in the last 10 years.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:59 pm to FooManChoo
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No. Worked for the CDC for a few years while in college but I'm in the private sector where data-driven analysis is what is important.
Well what data exists on successful head coaches that you want to share with us?
You can analyze this to death.
Remain paralyzed by indecision.
At the top level you don't tell people how to organize, how to do their job. You don't say to a new guy "we have identified this data that we need you to address but everything else is ok so don't mess with it and BTW after another season of data come ask us what you need to do next."
His systems are weak. All of them it appears. The right man will have demonstrated that he can not only manage systems but can create them.
His ability to motivate is poor. How do you measure that? the right man will have a resume that demonstrates such ability.
At the end of the day---you fire them when they don't win and you pay them when they do.
The only data you need on the head guy is his ability to win the games while following the rules. It is easy to understand. Everything else is his responsibility.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:10 pm to FooManChoo
There is something to using data and logic, Foo. There are also times when data and logic don't add up correctly. That is when it is important to use your gut.
This is one of those times.
We can assume that CMR and the coaches on his staff know HOW to coach football. X's and O's, Jimmies and Joes.
What I would say is the "specific" that you are looking for but not finding in your data is this. CMR and staff (Ill exclude Pruitt for the moment) do not have the charisma to inspire their teams to rise above in critical situations.
The defense has been pretty solid this year until late in games when they are gassed because they have been on the field for 40 minutes. This is why I give Pruitt a pass on the lack of charisma. I think the D comes to play every week...that's Pruitt. They are young, and will make mistakes, but the mostly veteran O makes a lot more.
Charisma, Foo...that's your missing piece.
Great coaches have it in metric fricktons
Good coaches can round it up in critical moments at least half the time.
CMR comes home empty handed from the charisma depot far more often than not.
Its a human leadership quality that is missing. Not anything you will find on any data readings.
This is one of those times.
We can assume that CMR and the coaches on his staff know HOW to coach football. X's and O's, Jimmies and Joes.
What I would say is the "specific" that you are looking for but not finding in your data is this. CMR and staff (Ill exclude Pruitt for the moment) do not have the charisma to inspire their teams to rise above in critical situations.
The defense has been pretty solid this year until late in games when they are gassed because they have been on the field for 40 minutes. This is why I give Pruitt a pass on the lack of charisma. I think the D comes to play every week...that's Pruitt. They are young, and will make mistakes, but the mostly veteran O makes a lot more.
Charisma, Foo...that's your missing piece.
Great coaches have it in metric fricktons
Good coaches can round it up in critical moments at least half the time.
CMR comes home empty handed from the charisma depot far more often than not.
Its a human leadership quality that is missing. Not anything you will find on any data readings.
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:12 pm to Lucius Clay
yes...I remember on the old "Rant" we would revisit this subject often...I agree...UGA is making money..until that changes...winning foozball games be damned
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:13 pm to Lucius Clay
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The administration does not have to pay a Saban-like salary or demand Saban-like results because we are still rolling in dough while never winning anything of importance in the last 35 years.
FIFY
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