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Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:27 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:27 pm to RD Dawg
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Oh,BTW the definition of Hell in evengelical terms is FAR more than just the absence of God.C'mon and you know that.
No. I don't. I can't imagine anything worse than separation from God. And, that is what Hell is.
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:39 pm to DawgsLife
Good God,how bout punishment?Dante's Inferno? Lot worse than the absence of God...to each his own and all that.
I really don't want to get into your personal beliefs about Heaven and Hell.
I really don't want to get into your personal beliefs about Heaven and Hell.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:41 pm to DawgsLife
So, as we have seen in this thread, a relatively small sect within the Christian religion, which has a major fundamental difference from its primary population, has been allowed to operate and recruit within the Athletic department and is lead, in part, by people who make decisions within the University. It has also been divisive due to its own doctrine which is clear to its members only.
I know y'all think you are 100% without question right... We don't need to argue that as it is pointless for this issue any further.
I personally don't care, but am not surprised that some do and frankly, they have a case...
I know y'all think you are 100% without question right... We don't need to argue that as it is pointless for this issue any further.
I personally don't care, but am not surprised that some do and frankly, they have a case...
Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:52 pm to Peter Buck
I guess I can live with a bit of mindless indoctrination as long as our guys don't copy Tennessee players and start fondling rattle snakes.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 6:56 pm to Whiznot
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start fondling
Go on....
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rattle snakes
Oh...nevermind.
-Jared Fogle
Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:43 pm to RD Dawg
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Good God,how bout punishment?Dante's Inferno? Lot worse than the absence of God...to each his own and all that.
Dante's inferno is man made. A story. We really don't know what hell will be like. It might be a firey furnace. It might be your worst fears (Snakes, anyone?)
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I really don't want to get into your personal beliefs about Heaven and Hell.
ok.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:49 pm to Peter Buck
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So, as we have seen in this thread, a relatively small sect within the Christian religion,
Are you talking about the FCA? Then yes, the FCA has meetings that the athletes can attend if they so choose.
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which has a major fundamental difference from its primary population,
No, they don't. ALL Christians believe that separate from Jesus one cannot get into heaven. That is the basic tenet of Christianity. To claim otherwise is to not be a Christian.
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and is lead, in part, by people who make decisions within the University.
Where was this said? I missed it. Richt hired his brother-in-law. His brother-in-law, apparently runs the FCA program.
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I know y'all think you are 100% without question right.
Of course we do. Don't you believe you are right? if you don't, why are we arguing?
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personally don't care, but am not surprised that some do and frankly, they have a case...
If they were being forced to attend, then I would say yes...the group has a case. But, nowhere does it say that they are being forced to attend.
I mean...are all the players being forced to go to the pool party, or the horse back riding? if so, do you find this objectionable and sinister?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:50 pm to Whiznot
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I guess I can live with a bit of mindless indoctrination
They do have a choice NOT to attend, right?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:46 pm to WG_Dawg
I'm with WG and Dawglife here too. I'm a Southern Baptist that believes the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ and that baptism is an outward showing of you step of faith. Being sprinkled and baptised as a child doesn't mean you are saved that would go against what the NT emphatically says. I could get into a long schpeil about all the reason Baptists broke away but I'll leave it short and simple protestants other than Catholics, don't believe sprinkling saves you it just means the church will have its hand on you and hope you choose Christ one day. It's a non essential to all those others they will say in their doctrine that the only way to heaven is thru Christ. Examples of these would be Lutherans, Presbyterians, methodists, and other forms of Baptist. Catholicism is a whole other topic in and of itself.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:01 pm to NCdawgfan34
See what I mean?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:20 pm to Peter Buck
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See what I mean?
So, what you are saying is if we don't agree with everyone else then we are wrong? Does that make us intolerant? Well, isn't your criticism of our beliefs being intolerant? I don't get it. In almost every area of life we have definite beliefs. how to raise our kids....about our government....how to save money....abortion....and it's ok to think we know the best way and think other people are wrong. However, when it comes to personal belief we have to accept that everybody is right and accept everyone elses beliefs as ok. Just because people disagree on this topic doesn't make God nonexistent. Somebody has to be wrong and somebody has to be right. We believe we are right. You believe you are right. The Jews believe they are right. the Muslims believe they are right.
Makes it tough to sort through what truley is right and what is wrong. But life is tough. You have to make tough decisions. You will make right decisions sometimes. you will make wrong decisions sometimes. but this decision is the most important one and you can't take the easy way out. If you are right, then the worst thing you can say about me is that I lived a good life and cared about people. If I am right......
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:22 pm to NCdawgfan34
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Catholicism is a whole other topic in and of itself
We had a Catholic coach for 25 years...would you have a problem had he appointed a priest team chaplin?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:25 pm to Peter Buck
I've decided that in order to be safe to worship the Anunnaki as they predate everyone else. So sprinkle and submerge yourself to your hearts content....it won't matter when the alien overlords return.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:38 pm to DawgsLife
I am editing this to be clear I was responding to this, which is not the fundamental difference between the 13% and the other 87%.
"No, they don't. ALL Christians believe that separate from Jesus one cannot get into heaven. That is the basic tenet of Christianity. To claim otherwise is to not be a Christian."
So Dawgslife, you are being dishonest here. You need to admit it to yourself. I already know and do not need the validation.
You need to come clean here and admit that you believe that the other 83% of Christians are not actually Christians unless they are Baptised after accepting Jesus as a person cognizantly...
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:42 pm to DawgsLife
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So, what you are saying is if we don't agree with everyone else then we are wrong? Does that make us intolerant? Well, isn't your criticism of our beliefs being intolerant? I don't get it. In almost every area of life we have definite beliefs. how to raise our kids....about our government....how to save money....abortion....and it's ok to think we know the best way and think other people are wrong. However, when it comes to personal belief we have to accept that everybody is right and accept everyone elses beliefs as ok. Just because people disagree on this topic doesn't make God nonexistent. Somebody has to be wrong and somebody has to be right. We believe we are right. You believe you are right. The Jews believe they are right. the Muslims believe they are right.
Makes it tough to sort through what truley is right and what is wrong. But life is tough. You have to make tough decisions. You will make right decisions sometimes. you will make wrong decisions sometimes. but this decision is the most important one and you can't take the easy way out. If you are right, then the worst thing you can say about me is that I lived a good life and cared about people. If I am right......
I already know what you believe. None of this is news to me. That is not what is being discussed here.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:33 pm to RD Dawg
No I would have not had a problem the only problem I have is other things that are for another discussion. Their shouldn't be a need for me to confess my sins to a priest for him to go to God for me when I have accepted Christ and have the holy spirit in me to do that for me. But its what they believe and if they want to tell people that and believe it I have no problem.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:38 pm to Peter Buck
Also he never said after cognitivly accepting Christ that you have to be baptized he just said that the Baptist Church split from other protestants because they believe it is an outward expression of their new faith in Christ. Baptism has nothing to do with being saved. According to Christianity we are not saved based off of works or merit but unmerrited favor from God.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:45 pm to Peter Buck
Posted on 8/22/15 at 6:20 am to SquatchDawg
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I've decided that in order to be safe to worship the Anunnaki as they predate everyone else. So sprinkle and submerge yourself to your hearts content....it won't matter when the alien overlords return.
You see...I don't make fun of anyone elses faith. I feel confident that I am right, just as they are sure they are right. Just as an atheist is sure he is right. But, bottom line is....SOMEBODY is right.
The big complaint from some of you is that none of us agree. But evolutionists all have different opinions about evolution and how it occurs. Global Change people disagree on whether it is caused by man or not. I can go on and on about how scientists disagree on different tenents of science. Why don't you reject all of those, after all, they all disagree, too. I understand that what we believe is faith based. but you would think when it comes to science that they would all agree. After all, isn't science base on research and proof?
Posted on 8/22/15 at 6:25 am to Peter Buck
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You need to come clean here and admit that you believe that the other 83% of Christians are not actually Christians unless they are Baptised after accepting Jesus as a person cognizantly...
Absolutely not. If they believe that Jesus came down to earth to die for their sins, rose three days later and they accept Him as their Lord and Saviour then they are a Christian. I don't care if they are Catholic, Methodist or Jewish, or whatever. Within the christian community there are disagreements as to the best way (or more correct way) to worship, but that doesn't change the fact that they are Christian.
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