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Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:29 pm
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:29 pm
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I'm not a religious person, but these folks are giving atheists a bad name.
Posted by NCdawgfan34
North Carolina
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:21 pm to
There's a special hot place for these folks!! Their time will come.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:40 pm to
What the frick is the point of that? People who devote their time towards something like that are just nuts. Batshit fricking crazy.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:41 pm to
Went after AU today to
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:46 pm to
I gotta say that the FCA at UGA was a tad pushy and had a pretty narrow view of what qualified as Christian. At least during my tenure.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:52 pm to
Good thing is you won't face the FCA when you die so it really doesn't matter what they think. Two questions:

1. Being a Christian seems self explanatory. What was FCA's narrow view?

2. What does pushy FCA have to do with this topic?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:26 pm to
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But Hynes’ relationship to athletes is still a violation of the separation of church and state ideal espoused by Thomas Jefferson, the Foundation said in a press release.

Wrong.

The founders wanted to prevent the federal government from creating a national religion. Like their former masters in England had done.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

States are free.....oops, excuse me...states WERE once free to decide these matters within their own borders for themselves.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 11:16 pm to
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Good thing is you won't face the FCA when you die so it really doesn't matter what they think. Two questions: 1. Being a Christian seems self explanatory. What was FCA's narrow view? 2. What does pushy FCA have to do with this topic?


1. The FCAs view is Evangelical, which represents 13% of the world's Christians.
2. One of the primary issues mentioned in the article was the association with the FCA.


Specifically, I don't' need Dicky Clark telling me I'm going to hell unless I buy into his narrow perception of Chrsitianity. I walked away pretty quick when I figured out the deal and left it at that... If they want to run a conversion schtick under the umbrella of the football program, I could give a frick... But they shouldn't be surprised that they are being called out.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 5:19 am to
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1. The FCAs view is Evangelical, which represents 13% of the world's Christians.
2. One of the primary issues mentioned in the article was the association with the FCA.


Specifically, I don't' need Dicky Clark telling me I'm going to hell unless I buy into his narrow perception of Chrsitianity. I walked away pretty quick when I figured out the deal and left it at that... If they want to run a conversion schtick under the umbrella of the football program, I could give a frick... But they shouldn't be surprised that they are being called out.





The FCA statement of faith on their web site is at this link. It is pretty clear what they stand for. If you go to an organization that plainly states what they believe and stand for, then you really can't complain if they back that up, can you?

LINK

While in High School we had a FCA meeting every week on game day. Nobody was pressured to go. I played for one of the best High School coaches to have ever coached in the state of Georgia.

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Specifically, I don't' need Dicky Clark telling me I'm going to hell unless I buy into his narrow perception of Chrsitianity.


You do realize that if you DO "buy into his narrow perception of Chrsitianity." there is no need for him to proselytize....it's those who do not know or understand that would make him want to talk to you.


Bottom line....if people are being coecred or forced to go, then there would be a problem. But most people that go to a FCA meeting know what to expect....or they don't go back like you.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:15 am to
Buck, are you confusing the FCA with the Baptist Student Union? BSU were the ones walking dorm halls telling everyone they were going to hell. It was pretty bad and I imagine highly ineffective.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:56 am to
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The FCA statement of faith on their web site is at this link. It is pretty clear what they stand for. If you go to an organization that plainly states what they believe and stand for, then you really can't complain if they back that up, can you? LINK While in High School we had a FCA meeting every week on game day. Nobody was pressured to go. I played for one of the best High School coaches to have ever coached in the state of Georgia.


This article is about UGA and its FCA program. It is Evangelical... Which represents 13% of the world's Christians... Unless you are one of the 13% and then you think you are the only true Christians..
There was aggressive and passive aggressive means used to recruit players. They even said Coach Dooley was going to hell because he was Catholic. It was an odd group.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:01 am to
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Buck, are you confusing the FCA with the Baptist Student Union? BSU were the ones walking dorm halls telling everyone they were going to hell. It was pretty bad


No, BSU was Evangelical and they had a few guys who were on the team, but FCA had coaches, staff and players (mainly football) and recruited during and immediately after practice and at the Mac... The held meetings at the Mac and had services at the Vet School as it was close to the Mac.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:38 am to
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FCA at UGA was a tad pushy


We had FCA in HS and a good part of out student population and athletes were Jewish.Didn't like the
fact they were excluded from the FCA so the it was changed to the FA (Fellowship of Athletes)

Thought it was a great idea for the unity of the team and the school.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12412 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:04 am to
The crew at UGA would have asked the Jewish guys if they have accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. After about a minute of a Jewish person attempting to explain his faith, he would be quickly cut off and told that the Bible clearly states that the only way to Heaven is to accept Jesus Christ as your savior and to be born again.


That's how it works...
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:46 am to
After the change,the outside FCA rep stopped showing and I'm pretty sure the percentage of Jews participating in my HS were somewhat higher than UGA.

Although I would have love to have seen the conversation between the FCA rep and Bill Goldberg.
Posted by NCdawgfan34
North Carolina
Member since Jun 2015
1037 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:14 am to
So Buck tell me this you have a problem with a religious group who are evangelical Christians and they tell people the only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ? Are you mad that they are firm in their beliefs and tell people what they believe is true or that they just don't accept all religions and hold hands and sing Kumbaya? This tolerance crap is what is putting down the drain. Who cares if you don't like the way they are spreading what they believe at least they have the balls to stick with what they believe.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 10:16 am to
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Who cares if you don't like the way they are spreading what they believe at least they have the balls to stick with what they believe.

slippery slope, my friend. See: the crusades.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:40 am to
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Who cares if you don't like the way they are spreading what they believe at least they have the balls to stick with what they believe.

slippery slope, my friend. See: the crusades.



Crusades are another "white man sux" myth. The truth is the Crusades were a series of defensive campaigns aimed at stopping and reversing Muslim conquests that threatened Anglo-European borders. The Christian/ Muslim wars have raged since the beginning of recorded history and will never cease imo. Those wars had to be fought and would've been fought regardless of Christianity being tied to them or not. Much like the state of the Middle East today.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:15 pm to
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The truth is the Crusades were a series of defensive campaigns aimed at stopping and reversing Muslim conquests that threatened Anglo-European borders.

I wasn't bringing up the crusades from the "white man sucks" point of view.

The "Muslim conquests" were threatening Anglo-Saxon borders because the Muslims had the balls to spread what they believed.

Granted, it takes quite a leap to get from things like FCA to invading enemy territories, but the basic principle is still the same.

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Who cares if you don't like the way they are spreading what they believe at least they have the balls to stick with what they believe.


this is the quote that prompted my response.
Posted by NCdawgfan34
North Carolina
Member since Jun 2015
1037 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:41 pm to
I see what your saying I'm not to worried about another one of those especially in America I'm just saying it's nothing to get your jimmies in a wad. It's not like they are physically harming anyone maybe hurting feelings but in all honesty you can't get all up in arms because they are being evangelical, hence them being evangelical Christians.
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