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re: A few quick thoughts from the game

Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:43 pm to
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You wouldn't know a good point if it poked you in the face repeatedly until it climaxed all over your tits.

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Today has proven otherwise.

pics or GTFO
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 1:51 pm to
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Naked is an unblocked DE using the action of a dive to cause the DE to crash and the QB to run outside of contain. With the H back also running behind the line against the flow, we are much more in a waggle type play as the QB is not naked as he has a guy in front of him. Which tells me that the RT needed to g


A regular bootleg has OL blocking after a fake (can be a handoff or a pitch) to the Rb.

A naked bootleg doesn't, which is exactly how the play looked and how it was described by the qb post game. All you have to support your claim is unfounded benefit doubt.

LINK
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:00 pm to
I wonder if our OC also gets all his football knowledge form wikipedia.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:02 pm to
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I wonder if our OC also gets all his football knowledge form wikipedia.

I'm picturing Schotty inserting his AOL CD and searching "football offense"
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:11 pm to
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wonder if our OC also gets all his football knowledge form wikipedia.


Don't think this link would tell bobo that running a naked boot with a pitch Isnt very smart, especially in the do or die situation we were in. That requires intelligence from another place.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:12 pm to
I was talking about our current OC.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:23 pm to
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A regular bootleg has OL blocking after a fake (can be a handoff or a pitch) to the Rb. A naked bootleg doesn't, which is exactly how the play looked and how it was described by the qb post game. All you have to support your claim is unfounded benefit doubt. LINK


You are confusing terms here... Naked means no one pulls or leads. It doesn't mean you leave the end uncovered. You can leave him uncovered if you design the play to get him to crash. That play didn't do that and furthermore the H releasing under the play is naturally going to keep the DE home. Do you understand that aspect?

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 2:24 pm to
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A few quick thoughts from the game by SneakyWaff1es
I was talking about our current OC.




For all we know, he would have called back to back dives to gurley for a td because he isn't smart enough to outsmart himself.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:18 pm to
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A regular bootleg has OL blocking after a fake (can be a handoff or a pitch) to the Rb. A naked bootleg doesn't, which is exactly how the play looked and how it was described by the qb post game. All you have to support your claim is unfounded benefit doubt. LINK


You are confusing terms here... Naked means no one pulls or leads. It doesn't mean you leave the end uncovered. You can leave him uncovered if you design the play to get him to crash. That play didn't do that and furthermore the H releasing under the play is naturally going to keep the DE home. Do you understand that aspect?



If no one leads or pulls to block, then the end is gonna be unblocked, which makes it naked. Those concepts often go hand in hand.

The end was supposed to crash on the fake toss action, but he didn't bite due To good coaching, an unconvincing fake (by design), and maybe also because he noticed hicks running the other way of the toss (by design).
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:38 pm to
Boy meets the real world. The way Cory is reacting is the same way folks react when one criticizes the amazing bobo. They really can't handle it.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:52 pm to
Please stop swordfighting over what constitutes a naked bootleg. That is what Cory is trying to say.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 3:58 pm to
Georgia quarterback Hutson Mason knew exactly what the plan was when offensive coordinator Mike Bobo called the play on first-and-goal from the South Carolina 4-yard line.

It was to fake a pitch to tailback Todd Gurley. Mason knew there would be an unblocked player, but if that player bit on the fake, tight end Quayvon Hicks would have a good shot to score.

“Obviously, the worst thing that could happen happened,” Mason said. “I think the whole world knows you’re going to give it to Todd [Gurley] there, so I think that little naked [bootleg] there, whether we would have scored or not, sometimes you don’t want to be predictable.”
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:19 pm to
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If no one leads or pulls to block, then the end is gonna be unblocked, which makes it naked. Those concepts often go hand in hand.


No sir... Now you are speculating. If you fake a weak side dive, the TEcan chip and release. If you run the fake to the strong side, there is nothing that says your RT can't engage the DE... Especially if there is underneath counter flow.

My points are, but not limited to the following

We do not know if the OT missed his assignment.
There was something fundamentally wrong with the way the play was executed
Bobo is not going to throw his guys under the bus
Bobo called plays for one of the most explosive offenses in the SEC and in the history of UGA.

Either he developed a fundementally flawed play or someone missed an assignment

My money is on someone missed an assignment, but I can not say for sure.

Naked bootleg by definition means a QB rolling out away from flow with no lead blockers. There are numerous blocking options based on formation.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:37 pm to
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You always run from the discussion


What a fricking joke.Because Im not on here 24/7 engaging in your little anal arguememts.See current discussion about a what you think is a naked bootleg vs someone who actually played CFB.

Never once have you ever engaged me in any type of debate with a coherent point.

Dude,you really need to get a life instead of stalking folks on discussion board.You come off as very creepy.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:55 pm to
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You always run from the discussion


What a fricking joke.Because Im not on here 24/7 engaging in your little anal arguememts.See current discussion about a what you think is a naked bootleg vs someone who actually played CFB.

Never once have you ever engaged me in any type of debate with a coherent point.

Dude,you really need to get a life instead of stalking folks on discussion board.You come off as very creepy.


One thing I have earned is that playing college football doesn't guarantee supreme knowledge of the game, and it certainly Isnt a requirement to know what a simple concept involves. And if playing matters at all, someone who actually was involved in the play would know more about the specifics than some guy who apparently played for Dooley ages ago.

It won't be hard to find the subjects we have discussed and then we can all see how much bs You are spewing. Also, how is it me stalking when it's you who went on the attack? Makes no sense.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:47 pm to
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It won't be hard to find subjects we have discussed


How bout GT vs ND?How bout blaming Bobo for this years offensive woes?How bout you stating the offense last year would have been "much much better" under Schotty (perhaps your most absurd analysis you've ever made)
How bout blaming Bobo for"lack of sustained drives" vs Bama?

Granted most of this is opinion but you lack little if any substance back up any of these assertions.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:43 pm to
Dude just let it go. This argument will literally go on forever with him.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:45 pm to
That same article's headline states Bobo takes responsibility for the call. No one is going to call out someone for messing up an assignment to the media.... That I know.

You are incorrect in stating that a naked bootleg requires the DE to go unblocked. It certainly can be, but not a requirement.

In any case, to make it some sort of indictment on his play calling or that he outsmarted himself is silly. People run various forms of waggles, counters and boots inside the 5 at college and pro levels with regularity. Making defenses respect them is part of the complex nature of measure vs countermeasures....

The only thing worth arguing is the play design... Which is flawed in my opinion by the way it was executed at least... That leads me to think there was a bust somewhere... And no one is going to call out the bust...

It is easy to second guess play calling...especially when it doesn't work. You have all the proof and none of the exposure...
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:50 pm to
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