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re: A few quick thoughts from the game

Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:17 pm to
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True. I think the biggest difference is that LSU played them better than we did by 2 tds. You already pointed out another, and the uf win was viewed as a win over a quality team unlike sc, who had lost to uk before we played them.



Our defense actually gave up less points than LSU's. Granted they took their foot off the gas.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:53 pm to
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Our problem is competing against teams with equal or more talent.


Doesn't make sense. Most any team will struggle against teams with equal or better talent.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:12 pm to
Why can't we just accept that neither Georgia or LSU had a chance against Bama? They have been on a mission since Ole Miss (for the most part) and would put It on any team in the country. If they played Clemson next week, they would be favored.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:24 pm to
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quote:
Our problem is competing against teams with equal or more talent.


Doesn't make sense. Most any team will struggle against teams with equal or better talent.



The key words here are competing and struggle. Yes, I absolutely expect to struggle in a close contest against teams with equal or better talent; this is what I call competing. I don't expect to get dominated and blown out by said teams. This is what our fans mean by UGA not showing up for such games.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:35 pm to
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quote:
Our problem is competing against teams with equal or more talent.


Doesn't make sense. Most any team will struggle against teams with equal or better talent.


It does when you watch the games. What we saw vs bama and uf in 2015 was seen vs them in 2008.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 5:42 am to
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Our problem is competing against teams with equal or more talent.


Very few teams in the conference or in CFB for that who are our equal offensively. We can be serviceable when we have the ball if the other team's defense is crap. The remainder of the regular season we do not play a defensive juggernaut like we did in Mizzzoo, Florida, Alabama and even Vandy...

This is what a 9 win regular season looks like fellows...and welcome to it...
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:25 am to
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We lost by 28, they lost by 14. We have 3 losses, they have none. Hardly very similar.


We also had 4 turnovers that contributed to 14 of their points. That and take away about 2 missed assignments, the defense actually didn't play too bad. Our Defense gave up 379 total yards, LSU gave up 434 yards. Have some faith in our program. It ain't as bad as it seems even though we won't win a championship of any kind again this year.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:40 am to
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We can be serviceable when we have the ball if the other team's defense is crap.


Or vs a team like Missouri with a very weak offense. This is why the Florida game was so disappointing. We all knew that Florida's defense was better than our defense but I thought their offense was considerably weaker than our offense. I really didn't expect to win the game but I did expect it to be a competitive/close contest; it wasn't.

For years our offense was considerably better than our defense and this year we are seeing a role reversal. CMR doesn't seem to be able to build a complete team with enough depth on both sides of the ball to withstand injuries. 2012 was probably our best/most balanced team since our last SECC in 2005.
Posted by Leghumper
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Member since Dec 2003
2330 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:41 am to
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but I thought their offense was considerably weaker than our offense


huh?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:22 am to
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We lost by 28, they lost by 14. We have 3 losses, they have none. Hardly very similar.


So....a 14 point difference is the difference between a dumpster fire and a contender?
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:24 am to
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quote:but I thought their offense was considerably weaker than our offense huh?


Yep, I was wrong but that's what I thought going into the game. Florida has been weak on offense for years now. Yea, they have looked better this season under McElwain with Grier as QB but with Grier out I thought we had the better offense. It probably wouldn't have made much if any difference but playing Bauta was a mistake in my opinion. Richt should have played Lambert and tried to stretch the field with Mitchell, Godwin and Michel. Oh well....
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:25 am to
You really want to compare scores? You KNOW thta isn't legitimate. But, if you want to do that how does the South carolina game compare?

And thery really didn't look THAT much better in their loss to Alabama, and could have easily lost to Florida.

Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
753 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:33 am to
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2012 was probably our best/most balanced team since our last SECC in 2005.


2008....absolute embarrassment of riches. yet, 3 losses. If a coach can't put it together that year he never will.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:38 am to
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I think the biggest difference is that LSU played them better than we did by 2 tds.


Andwe played SC better by more than that....you can't compare the two. Different teams, different matchups.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:49 am to
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2008....absolute embarrassment of riches


just because they had talent doesn't mean they wre our "best/most balanced" team.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:23 am to
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I don't expect to get dominated and blown out by said teams.


You do realize that while we finish Top 10 in recruiting, Alabama has finished with the #1 class 5 straight years, right? It's not like our talent is even remotely close to Alabama's.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:31 am to
And the strength of Alabama's recruiting has been on the lines. That has been our weakness. Years of those recruiting mismatches lead to blowouts like we saw this year.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:32 am to
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2008....absolute embarrassment of riches. yet, 3 losses. If a coach can't put it together that year he never will.


Yet, we conveniently forget the times we play well against top teams. Should we have been on the same field as Auburn (A National Championship game participant) in 2013? Probably not. Yet, if not for a miracle tipped pass we would have beaten them. Some of our toughest losses the past several years have been due to player mistakes, not coaching mistakes. (Tennessee 2015, Auburn 2013, South carolina 2014 to name three) True, Richt makes mistakes, and they hurt. But what major college player does not know to knock a 4th and 23 pass down and not try to intercept? That isn't coaching. That is a player that wants to grab some glory, and it cost us. How many times do you see a WR drop an easy pass as he crosses the goal line? It happens....but that is player, not coach. Coaches can not catch passes, knock passes down etc. There are more player mistakes causing losses then coaching mistakes.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:36 am to
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But what major college player does not know to knock a 4th and 23 pass down and not try to intercept? That isn't coaching.


Completely disagree with you here. That is coaching. Grantham should be saying that in the huddle to them, and then Matthews should have been told to do that when our team watched film of the LSU game that year and he dove for the ball on the final play of that game to try and pick it off.

South Carolina in 2014 could be coaching as well. We got killed repeatedly on the same route, and we didn't run the ball near the goal line. Players contributed but coaching still had an impact.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:38 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:37 am to
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Years of those recruiting mismatches lead to blowouts like we saw this year.


5 straight years of #1 recruiting led to mismatches.
LSU recruits better than us and they got blown out by Alabama. It is simply a matter of talent and depth talent.
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