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re: Your top 5 SEC players since 7 in a row started (2006)

Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:29 am to
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9629 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:29 am to
Cam
Tebow
DMac
Eric Berry
Percy Harvin
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18615 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:35 am to
quote:

Cam
Tebow
DMac
Eric Berry
Percy Harvin



Good call on Berry. I thought about Harvin.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:44 am to
OFFENSE
Tebow
Cam
Ingram
Harvin
McFadden

DEFENSE
Berry
McClain
Dorsey
Willis
Clowney
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 8:55 am
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 7:46 am to
quote:

So you're knocking the freshman because he wasn't perfect. That's really the long and short of it.


I don't think they are knocking as much as they are defending the fact that he should not even be sniffing the top 5 list right now. If he has another great year then yeah we can start talking about putting him up there with the greats like Cam, Tebow, McFadden, etc., but I think it is a bit too soon for that.

:inb4heisman:
:inb4justafreshman:
:inb4camonlyplayedayear:
:inb4justjoinedtheSEC:
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Let's count the butthurt posters who leave off
Frick Manziel. It's laughable to think that he's top 10 in the last 7 years much less top 5
Posted by crimson008
GA
Member since May 2012
264 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:11 am to
1.) Manziel
2.) Newton
3.) Tebow
4.) Clowney
5.) Peterson

I try not to like Manziel but he (alone) made TAMU a very competitive football team and put up better numbers than Newton. Both are monsters and 1 step above the other 3.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21685 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:09 am to
Everybody needs to calm down about Manziel. He had a great year. And he'll tank this year. Watch and see.


This message brought to you by the guy that always calls these things correctly and gets blasted until his predictions come true and then all his doubters disappear or make excuses.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30866 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:31 am to
Not Top 5, but certainly an argument can be made to be considered an honorable mention is Javier Arenas.

Sr. Year:
12 TFL, 5 sacks, 5 picks, 10 passes defended, and a PR for a TD. Finished with 7 career punt returns for TDs.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:36 am to
Thought about that last night. Guys that do their job just do not get enough credit because what they do rarely makes the highlight reels or show up in the stats. Javy was maybe the best one on one open field tackler that I have seen, he just never missed.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 9:37 am
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
520 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:50 am to
quote:

So you're knocking the freshman because he wasn't perfect. That's really the long and short of it.


When you're talking about a list like this, you almost have to be perfect.

Its not a knock, but if you want to say he's better than Newton, he would need to be perfect.

If you want to say he's better than Tebow or DMac, he needs to do it for a couple more years.
Posted by Unjortsmanlike
Gainesville, FL
Member since Jan 2013
48 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:52 am to
1. Tim Tebow

4-year player, 3-year starter
2 National Championships (one as starter, one as role player)
2 SEC Championships, 3 SECCG appearances
35-6 as a starter, 48-7 during his 4-years
Heisman Trophy winner (at the time, first underclassman ever)
3-time Heisman finalist
2-time Maxwell Award winner (2007, 2008)
2-time 1st Team All American (2007, 2008)
3-time 1st Team All SEC (2007, 2008, 2009)
1st in SEC passing efficiency (170.8), 2nd in NCAA history
145 TDs (88 passing, 57 rushing)
12,233 Total Yds (9,286 passing, 2,947 rushing)
Didn't bother to look up specifics, but undoubtedly impressive record vs. ranked teams
1st round NFL Draft pick (25th overall)

Unless we define what "top players" means (pure talent, potential, best individual season, hardware, overall individual performance, championships, leadership, etc.) this debate is meaningless. Tebow is the best combination of all of that and he played for 4 years. Arguably in the top 5 SEC (and NCAA) players of all time, not just since the NC streak began. No one else on the list comes close.

"Yeah, but he has an awkward throwing motion..."



But since this debate is basically "throw logic and stats out the window and pick 5 SEC players you'd want on your team" (since 2006) I'd go with: 1. Tebow 2. Cam 3. McFadden 4. Harvin 5. Clowney
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16464 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 9:57 am to
quote:

DWag215


Did Manziel win a championship? No. That's why it's absurd for you to be so upset that others put CHAMPIONSHIP QB's in front of him.
He wins one this year and puts up similar numbers again, put him at the top of the list.
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
984 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Everybody needs to calm down about Manziel. He had a great year. And he'll tank this year. Watch and see.


Your fear is palpable.

Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21685 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:11 am to
Watch and see, Grasshopper.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:23 am to
If anyone puts Ingram on their list, then Richardson should be at least one spot higher.

1. Tim Tebow
2. Cam Newton
3. Darren McFadden
4. Rolando McClain
5. Could be any number of people. Too hard for me to pick.

I also would like to throw a shoutout to the SEC's best punt/kick returned, Javier Arenas.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

I'm curious, did Manziel ever direct A&M to a come from behind victory?


quote:

Ole Piss & La Tech?


Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:52 pm to
My LSU top

Dorsey
Peterson
Doucet
Matthieu
Mongo
Claiborne
Lafell
Flynn
Hester
Brockers

That's my LSU top 10
Posted by Tigerfan53
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2010
3105 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:12 am to
JFF has only played one year and I wouldn't put him on any top 5 year list except first year SEC starter list
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:37 am to
He's right bro. AJ was all over his arse in the BCSNC. Did you honestly see any of the ESPN hype covering his actual corner skills?

No. He was all about stripping the ball and coming on corner blitzes. And when he finally played a power running team he got squashed, tossed, and burned on play action. He shouldn't even be in top 10 as far as I'm concerned. The fact alone he constantly was on weed among other things would in my opinion leave him out of it.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75169 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:50 am to
No Eric Berry?!
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