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re: Your top 5 SEC players since 7 in a row started (2006)
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:05 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:05 pm to Tuscaloosa
OK. Now that I understand, I'll offer a rebuttal.
He was a decent cover corner but he wasn't asked to do this exclusively. His playmaking ability, which changed momentum of games, was not matched. Whether you judge him on skills or playmaking, he deserves recognition.
For example, Tim Tebow was great at what he did. Average to below average passer but I still qualify him as a QB. A damn good college QB too.
He was a decent cover corner but he wasn't asked to do this exclusively. His playmaking ability, which changed momentum of games, was not matched. Whether you judge him on skills or playmaking, he deserves recognition.
For example, Tim Tebow was great at what he did. Average to below average passer but I still qualify him as a QB. A damn good college QB too.
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Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:06 pm to Tuscaloosa
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He was a great player because of his play-making ability. He was not a top 10 player if we take into account his role as a cover-corner or tackler, or anything else other than punt returner/fumble forcer.
Let's look at Tebow on a per-play basis and see how he weighs in.
Let's disqualify Cam because he only played one year too.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:06 pm to Monticello
Tebow
Cam
PP
McClain
Julio/Green
Cam
PP
McClain
Julio/Green
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:08 pm to Monticello
1.Cam Newton
2.Percy Harvin
3.Tim Tebow
4.Jadeveon Clowney
5.Darren Mcfadden
6.Patrick Peterson
7.Randall Cobb
8.Trent Richardson
9.AJ Green
10.Janoris Jenkins
2.Percy Harvin
3.Tim Tebow
4.Jadeveon Clowney
5.Darren Mcfadden
6.Patrick Peterson
7.Randall Cobb
8.Trent Richardson
9.AJ Green
10.Janoris Jenkins
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:11 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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1. Johnny Manziel
2. Johnny Football
3. Johnny Heisman
4. Tim Tebow
5. Cam Newton
Tebow and Cam were actually effective in the second half of their games. See: bama, lsu, florida
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:12 pm to Ooh Wee Ooh
Now that was just unnecessary. 
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:15 pm to Monticello
1. Cam
2. Tebow
3. DMac
4. Paptrick Peterson
5. Johnny Manzeil
6. Tyrann Mathieu
7. Jadeveon Clowney
8. AJ Green
9. Trent Richardson
10. Jacob Hester
2. Tebow
3. DMac
4. Paptrick Peterson
5. Johnny Manzeil
6. Tyrann Mathieu
7. Jadeveon Clowney
8. AJ Green
9. Trent Richardson
10. Jacob Hester
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:16 pm to Gamecox20
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10. Dexter McCluster (prob doesn't deserve top 10 but loved watching that lil guy)
First player in SEC history to rush for 1,000 yards and have 500 receiving yards in the same season. This while playing for Houston Nutt, who always took half a season before he finally put him in at RB.
Also, is Patrick Willis an option? Played on terrible teams but was very productive.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:18 pm to Quicksilver
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First player in SEC history to rush for 1,000 yards and have 500 receiving yards in the same season.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:19 pm to nc14
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Julio/Green
Not even a competition, collegiately speaking.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:19 pm to Monticello
I'll just do guys that have finished their college careers so as to not put someone like Clowney or Manziel on the list.
In no order:
Newton
Tebow
Harvin
DMac
Alshon
In no order:
Newton
Tebow
Harvin
DMac
Alshon
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:22 pm to parkjas2001
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Cam
Fairley
Tebow
Harvin
Dorsey
Peterson
Ingram
Andre Smith
McFadden
AJ
Second ten
JFF
Randall Cobb
Julio
McCluster
HB
Clowney
Demico Ryans
Patrick Willis
Eric Norwood
Knowshown
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:23 pm to Monticello
1 - Tim Tebow
2 - Marcus Lattimore
3 - Cam Newton
4 - Mark Ingram
5 - AJ McCarron
***************
6 - Trent Richardson
7 - Jadeveon Clowney
8 - Percy Harvin
9 - Darren McFadden
10- Johnny Manziel
2 - Marcus Lattimore
3 - Cam Newton
4 - Mark Ingram
5 - AJ McCarron
***************
6 - Trent Richardson
7 - Jadeveon Clowney
8 - Percy Harvin
9 - Darren McFadden
10- Johnny Manziel
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:23 pm to Monticello
Maybe Patrick Willis somewhere in there.
2006 SEC 137 (1st) Total Tackles
2006 SEC 137 (1st) Total Tackles
This post was edited on 5/16/13 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:26 pm to scrooster
I have no idea how you can put any RB in front of McFadden, much less 3.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:26 pm to Monticello
Berry is the best DB the SEC has had during this stretch, not Peterson.
Peterson getting more love itt is most likely due to Peterson being the better pro. Though Berry has been a Pro Bowler every year he has been in the NFL.
Keep in mind Berry played three different positions (CB as a frosh, FS a a sophomore, and SS as a junior) while PP played all CB.
Berry (39 games)
245 tackles
17.5 TFL
3 sacks
14 INTs
494 INT return yards
3 INT TDs
2 FR
103 FR return yards
2x Consensus All-American
Thorpe Award
SEC Defensive Player of the Year
Number 5 Overall Pick, NFL Draft
Peterson (39 games)
135 tackles
3 TFL
7 INTs
171 return yards
1 INT TD
1 FF
Bednarik Award
Consensus All-American
Thorpe Award
SEC Defensive Player of the Year
Number 5 Overall Pick, NFL Draft
Peterson getting more love itt is most likely due to Peterson being the better pro. Though Berry has been a Pro Bowler every year he has been in the NFL.
Keep in mind Berry played three different positions (CB as a frosh, FS a a sophomore, and SS as a junior) while PP played all CB.
Berry (39 games)
245 tackles
17.5 TFL
3 sacks
14 INTs
494 INT return yards
3 INT TDs
2 FR
103 FR return yards
2x Consensus All-American
Thorpe Award
SEC Defensive Player of the Year
Number 5 Overall Pick, NFL Draft
Peterson (39 games)
135 tackles
3 TFL
7 INTs
171 return yards
1 INT TD
1 FF
Bednarik Award
Consensus All-American
Thorpe Award
SEC Defensive Player of the Year
Number 5 Overall Pick, NFL Draft
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:29 pm to gatorhata9
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I think he would be top 15, especially since after this season he'll be one of the winningest in league history with most of the passing records in his name.
Mostly because he has been a 4 year starter. He's no Cam or Timmy T.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:29 pm to scrooster
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1 - Tim Tebow
2 - Marcus Lattimore
3 - Cam Newton
4 - Mark Ingram
5 - AJ McCarron
***************
6 - Trent Richardson
7 - Jadeveon Clowney
8 - Percy Harvin
9 - Darren McFadden
10- Johnny Manziel
Yikes.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:30 pm to Tuscaloosa
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He was a great player because of his play-making ability. He was not a top 10 player if we take into account his role as a cover-corner or tackler, or anything else other than punt returner/fumble forcer.
Take away any great player's "playmaking" ability and they are just a player.
Manziel is a great playmaker. He is not a freak athlete. He knows how to make plays, and as a QB, he gets a lot more chances to make plays than any other position.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 5:31 pm to Monticello
Nobody is mentioning the best linebacker to come out of the SEC since the streak started? Patrick Willis. Do better 
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