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re: Would you fire Coach Jim McElwain?

Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:22 am to
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:22 am to
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Still 11 possible with an SEC title.


Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:43 am to
Vols win out.

Auburn upsets Bama in Iron Bowl

Thinks they have SEC locked up and is still thinking about Bama and doesn't take SEC title game seriously. (2001 SEC Title game flashbacks)

TN comes in fresh with Kamara, Sutton, DK Jr ect back healthy and pulls off the upset.

Gets even healthier and wins Sugar Bowl.

Butch wins SEC Coach of the year!
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 9:44 am
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24147 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:51 am to
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He still deserves at least one more year, after this one.


It's not like Florida has been Bad. They won the east and may win it again. The guy was left with nearly zero offensive talent. He's a no less than four year guy. If not, Florida needs to officially replace Texas as the dumbest, most impatient fans.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 9:52 am
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:58 am to
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It's not like Florida has been Bad. They won the east and may win it again. The guy was left with nearly zero offensive talent. He's a no less than four year guy. If not, Florida needs to officially replace Texas as the dumbest, most impatient fans.



If the Bama coach who follows Saban brings in 3 consecutive recruiting classes outside the top 10 and is 1-5 against ranked teams will the Bama fanbase be patient and talk about how he needs 4 years?
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Bengal tail
Member since Aug 2016
742 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:27 pm to
Wouldn't blink n eye, y'all offense looks like a pee wee team
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23894 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:36 pm to
I'm hoping that Muschamp ruin's UF's program, twice.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27433 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:13 pm to
If he tanks the remainder of the season ( a distinct possibility) he is on a short leash.....very short.
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2311 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:00 pm to
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He is great at developing qb's and i think will have good success in the future.


Who is this QB again?
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2311 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:03 pm to
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Considering he's won with Harris (a slot receiver playing quarterback) and Del Rio who apparently is god awful, I'm surprised we have the best record in the East.



Has he defeated a top 15 team yet?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:03 pm to
No outside of Meyers first to two years, WM and one SOS uf has killed VU. Mac is an awful head coach and is the offensive version of WM without the recruiting ability
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:08 pm to
We've been terrible. The offense is made up of all his recruits except for Sharpe and Goolsby and Lewis. The east is utter garbage. You want to see the difference in how to run a program?

quote:

There has been no significant improvement in offense, and the defense has regressed. He's signed 39 3*s regardless. We're #91 in total offense in Mac's 2nd year with the easiest SOS in the SEC! Does Harbaugh 2015 class not count? The one that finished below us. He's 19-3, 4-1 vs the top 25, has top 10 classes and is destroying his competition. He's taken a team that was 5-7 the year before he got there and has them rolling on and off the field. What's Mac excuse? Harbaugh destroyed UF with a grad transfer QB. The difference is one can manage and coach a team and the other cannot. 

Michigan 2014 with Nuss 
#115 in total offense and #111 in ppg 

2015 

#50 scoring offense #69 in total offense 

2016 

#3 scoring offense #20 in total offense. 


UF: 

2016: 
#76 scoring offense #91 in total offense. 

2015: 

#100 in ppg #112 in total offense 

2014: 

#56 scoring offense, #96 in total offense 

Harbaugh started with just as big of a mess than Mac and is killing it and his team has improved greatly in recruiting and play every year 
LINK 

Per 247 Recruiting: 

2015: 37th had 6 commits including a K and legacy before JH arrived. 16Th in average * ranking 


2016: 6th overall 2nd B10 9th in avg * ranking 

2017: 10th 2nd B10 9th in avg* ranking 


UF 

2015: 21st 10th in SEC 20th in avg * ranking 

2016: 12th 6th in SEC 16th in avg * ranking 

2017: 17th 8th in SEC 13th in avg * ranking 

This post was edited on 11/7 at 5:55 am




Our program will be in worse shape when Mac is fired next year midseason. All you Bama fans who said he was a HR hire can gfy. Another saban tree failure
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 4:13 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:14 pm to
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Considering he's won with Harris (a slot receiver playing quarterback) and Del Rio who apparently is god awful, I'm surprised we have the best record in the East.

what has he won with Harris? Harris' record as a starter last year was 4-4, with an OT win against FAU, a 10 point win against USC, a 9-7 win against Vandy, and win against UGA where Harris went 8/19 for 155 yards. Had Harris started the entire season. Florida doesn't win the East last year.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:18 pm to
What team would win their division with the backup QB??
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:31 pm to
This depends on the buy out and who we can get. It also depends on how the teams finishes. If they lose to USCe someone needs to be fired after the game.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:32 pm to
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What team would win their division with the backup QB??

I didn't say many would, but the poster I responded to was acting like McElwain had no problem winning with Harris as starter, when in reality, Florida won with Grier and managed to hold onto to the East, barely, despite Harris being awful, not to mention the East was a dumpster fire last year too. Florida did not attain the best record in the East with Harris starting. Their big wins against Ole Miss and Tennessee came with Grier starting
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Vols win out.

Auburn upsets Bama in Iron Bowl

Thinks they have SEC locked up and is still thinking about Bama and doesn't take SEC title game seriously. (2001 SEC Title game flashbacks)

TN comes in fresh with Kamara, Sutton, DK Jr ect back healthy and pulls off the upset.

Gets even healthier and wins Sugar Bowl.

Butch wins SEC Coach of the year!





Through 8 games, not counting the scrimmage against Tennessee Tech, Botch has yet to get his team to play a complete four quarters.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:40 pm to
It's simply not fair if Florida gets a new coach before Tennessee.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

This depends on the buy out and who we can get. It also depends on how the teams finishes. If they lose to USCe someone needs to be fired after the game.




God,you've got a HC who freakin won the SECE his FIRST
year and you want to talk this BS?
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:26 pm to
If Tennessee replaces Butch jones with a chimpanzee they win the sec champ game this year
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:50 pm to
Gator fans are insufferable sometimes. Mac isnt going to be here for a while. He hasnt squander a season yet...and I say yet. I know the east is down but we ARE in first fricking place.

Our lack of a run game is the real problem....others tell you its the QB and I beg to differ....if you cant run...QB cant throw while prone on the ground. I understood why we were 13th in the SEC last year in rushing the ball...totally makeshift OL with three true frosh starting/playing...I did expect to see improvement in our run game and we are headed back to 11th-13th in rushing again in the SEC. Mac made lemonade out of sewer water last year with the stat of 13th in rushing....but mainly with Muschamps defense bailing us out time and again...this year we still have Muschamps defense for the most part but they will all be gone soon.

The OL HAS to produce and get off their fat azz and block for crying out loud. Johnny Unitas (most of you arent old enough to know how fricking good he was), Dan Marino (best pure passer ever with the quickest release) and any other fantasy QB cant help if the OL doesnt create some run game.
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