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Would you fire Coach Jim McElwain?

Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:22 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:22 am
There's this bizarre thing going on in the Florida Fanbase, that after the Vanderbilt game he should be fired. I think it's absolutely batshit insane, but, I admit I could be wrong. What do people outside the fanbase think?

Do you fire the coach for obvious shortcomings caused by a lack of recruiting from the predecesor (even though he won the East last year with it)? We had three true freshmen on the line in rotation, one upper classmen running back, literally one Quarterback who was a redshirt freshmen (Treon Harris was not a quarterback) and no kicker.

Please let me know if you would fire him after the Tennessee or Vanderbilt game. Thank you for your time.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
52792 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:24 am to
Isn't the big concern recruiting? Otherwise, I think the guy is a solid coach and just needs another year or two to get the offense rolling.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38732 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:24 am to
crazy talk honestly
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158718 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:28 am to
that's crazy....but I also didn't get why so many people crowned the guy after one decent season last year.
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:29 am to
No. He's currently 9-2 in the conference. Strong, on the other hand, is 9-10 and looking at playing OU next.

And people are on our arse for wanting him gone...
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 10:32 am
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:31 am to
Uh, what? He won the East last year with substantially less talent that UT and UGA.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Isn't the big concern recruiting?


I touched on that a little bit -- he took the 100+ (I don't remember how bad it was) recruiting class last year (after Muschamp left) and got it up to 21st.

He is struggling to recruit, but we were pretty bad after Muschamp left. We're lucky to even be where we are right now, to be quite honest.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:36 am to
No, I'd give him another year with his recruits to see what he can do.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:38 am to
Hell no. He is literally the best coach in the East.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52510 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:38 am to
It's way too early but he seems very underwhelming as a coach.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158718 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:39 am to
quote:

substantially less talent that UT and UGA.


yeahhhhh.....no
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:39 am to
quote:

He is literally the best coach in the East.


That's like being the tallest midget
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:40 am to
quote:

It's way too early but he seems very underwhelming as a coach.




Posted by JortsOnTheRise
AL
Member since Aug 2012
241 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:42 am to
Recruiting isn't where I want it to be, but it's way too early. Every game he has lost has been with a backup QB. There's a good chance he gets 9 or more wins this year (including the bowl game). If the offense continues to stall next year, then we might need to start worrying.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35288 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:49 am to
This is ridiculous. He hasn't even been there for a 2 full years. If anything, y'all should still be mad at Muschamp and laughing at Carolina for hiring him.

I am not saying McElwain is the one for y'all, but he wasn't left with much, especially for his style of play. He's already shown he can do a hell of a job without his type of players there (as you noted him winning East last year ). I, personally, think this is dumb of y'alls fan base and no you don't fire him. He still deserves at least one more year, after this one. By that third season, coaches should start having their players in place and the team should be more of a reflection of that coach by year 3. Personally, with what Muschamp left him with, I think he should get a good 4 years to get everything in place and get some players actually capable of making plays.
Posted by AnActualFan
Work
Member since Mar 2010
927 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:50 am to
He has had some bad QB luck, that has to be accounted for. His recruiting is an issue, but that can be remedied by hiring a strong closer. Way too early IMHO. Guy in the cube behind me is a Gator alum, and says the same.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61033 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:53 am to
Horrible time to fire him. He had no qbs when he got there.

You'd look as classless and incompetent as Texas.

Texas is everything you DON'T want to be. They're ruining their program by just entertaining the idea.

Hopefully Florida is more about long term success and continuity.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61033 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:57 am to
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And people are on our arse for wanting him gone


Because you've been wanting him gone for 2 years now. He's never had the support previous coaches have had. How old is that fire Charlie thread on shaggy?


Texas would prove it's own administrative issues with a Charlie firing. They cant even be confident in their own decisions, or even if they make a decision, they continually question it.

Sounds like administration issues are bigger than the football issues. You even had to fire your AD barely one year into the job. How far does it Go? And now a top booster is running your AD? What a mess.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:02 am to
Recruiting in Florida will be easy once he gets it rolling, he is great at developing qb's and i think will have good success in the future.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26571 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 11:04 am to
No, he absolutely should not be fired. Honestly, his Colorado State teams could probably beat his Florida teams, and that is on Muschamp.
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