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re: Worst miss on a football head coaching hire in your schools history.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:55 pm to Crimson Legend
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:55 pm to Crimson Legend
The worst head coach in the history of college football, ELLLLLLLLLLLLis Johnson.
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:03 pm to theGarnetWay
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Brad Scott. He did get us our first bowl win but he was supposedly a HR hire from FSU but his best seasons were 7-5 and 6-5 and was 1-10 in his last seaon. On top of that he was hired as a coordinator at Clemson after he left.
Seconded.
I was going to post the exact same thing.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:07 pm to Mr. Blutarski
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ELLLLLLLLLLLLis Johnson.
Curley hallman was the worst hire in the history of the SEC
Dude went 2-9 at LSU. 2 and 9
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:16 pm to nc14
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Bill Curry. Set us back for years.
Curry may have left a sour taste in the mouths of many Alabama fans but the guy did win consistently while he was in Tuscaloosa. The man's only fault was that he couldn't beat Auburn.
And he surely didn't set us back for years. His 1989 recruiting class would help lead us to an 11-1 record in 1991 and a 13-0 record in 1992. That's hardly a set back.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:16 pm to danfraz
Curley halman was horrible but who did LSU pass up to get him? Archer is hands down the winner for LSU. We passed on Spurrier, Shanahan and Mac Brown!!! We had a 75% chance of making a home run hire, a dynasty starting hire, and effed it up.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:24 pm to DamnStrong1860
Shanahan had zero head coaching experience but was interviewed
Mack Brown had no interest is dealing with the politics associated with the job at the time
And spurrier is always thrown out there but has never ever been confirmed as having this great desire to coach LSU and most felt he would be a Florida at some point, which is where arnsbarger left LSU for
Archer won 10 and 8 games his first two years. Far superior coach to Curley. Who again was the worst coach ever hired for a SEC job
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:35 pm to danfraz
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Who again was the worst coach ever hired for a SEC job
J.B. "Ears" Whitworth disagrees. From 1955-1957 he coached Alabama to a 4-24-2 record, which includes an 0-10 1955 season. Since the "poll era" officially began in 1936, I don't think there has been a worse head coach in the SEC.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:38 pm to danfraz
No one disputes that Curley was the worst hombre. OP asked who was the biggest miss in school history. I think he wants to know who we passed on that ultimately ended up being a great coach somewhere else. Look at all the other responses in the thread; that seems to be the question everyone else is answering. Anyways, no one has said who LSU picked Curley over. Did we pass on Jimmy Johnson or something? By the way, did Archer have any head coaching experience? Wasn't he a coordinator?
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:44 pm to DamnStrong1860
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It can be that your school hired a good coach but passed up a great one or that your school just flat out hired a bust.
From the OP
The bust IMO was worse since no one knew what spurrier and shanahan would become. Archer was dcord under arnsbarger, knew the program etc...and LSU was kinda cheap then as well. Curley turned this place into Mississippi state
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:47 pm to DamnStrong1860
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By the way, did Archer have any head coaching experience? Wasn't he a coordinator?
What was the circumstances surrounding the opening?
For example, Jack Crowe was hired to replace Hatfield a couple weeks before National Signing Day, there really wasn't a search, just bad timing to find a new HC. Crowe was the OC and had previous HC experience.
This started a string of misses for Broyles, he followed this up by bringing in Ford for a consulting role following the Crowe firing, again no real search conducted, it was Ford's job at the end of the year.
After Ford, Broyles wanted to hire Tuberville from Ole Miss, instead he was out powered by a committee consisting of former players, big boosters, and the Chancellor to hire Nutt.
In basketball, he went with Stan Heath over Bill Self, then had the Altman fiasco that began with a an oral contract being broken by BCG and led to Pel's hiring.
Hatfield over Johnson was mainly because of Johnson's recruiting practices at OSU, same reason why Switzer wasn't considered to replace him (he hired Holtz from the Jets). Hatfield won two conference titles.
He did get the baseball hire right by taking VanHorn from Nebraska.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:49 pm to DaleDenton
goff at uga.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:55 pm to DaleDenton
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What was the circumstances surrounding the opening?
The athletic department was in total chaos.
Broadhead fighting with dale brown, arnsbarger wanted to become ad so he as broadhead weren't speaking, broadhead was doing some rather illegal shite taping audio wise that ppl were sniffing around about, LSU was cheap at the time, it was a fricking soap opera.
Arnsbarger left to become ad at Florida, recommended archer to replace, ppl thought stability was more important than many things. It didnt work but its not like anyone KNEW Shannie was who he turned out to be and florida hired spurrier in 1990 I think, which most ppl thought was he place he wanted to really be.
Mack brown had coached here in the early 80's and I think would have been great here but seeing what the hell was goin on with broadhead he didnt want to be involved and it wasn't like ppl were knocking the door down for the job
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:57 pm to danfraz
Agreed. Curley absolutely killed our program. Do you remember how excited people were just to make it to the Independence Bowl after that?
Posted on 8/22/13 at 7:59 pm to danfraz
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The athletic department was in total chaos.
Broadhead fighting with dale brown, arnsbarger wanted to become ad so he as broadhead weren't speaking, broadhead was doing some rather illegal shite taping audio wise that ppl were sniffing around about, LSU was cheap at the time, it was a fricking soap opera.
Arnsbarger left to become ad at Florida, recommended archer to replace, ppl thought stability was more important than many things. It didnt work but its not like anyone KNEW Shannie was who he turned out to be and florida hired spurrier in 1990 I think, which most ppl thought was he place he wanted to really be.
Mack brown had coached here in the early 80's and I think would have been great here but seeing what the hell was goin on with broadhead he didnt want to be involved and it wasn't like ppl were knocking the door down for the job
I know that feel bro.
Things started going down hill for Broyles with Crowe hire, IMO, he was hired for "stability" as well.
Broyles also would not change his ways as far as getting coaches, we would probably still be paying only 1.5-1.8 mil for a coach with an assistant budget of about the same for football, he absolutely refused to pay for a basketball coach.
Him being forced to retire didn't help when it came to the eventual Pel hire, football would have been worse had Long not already been hired to replace Frank.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:02 pm to danfraz
Our brain dead AD fired a good coach and a perfect gentleman to hire a a barely reformed alcoholic, wife beating, white booted, coonass, redneck, shirt ripping, moron.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:03 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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Bill Curry over Bobby Bowden
Was just coming here to post that one.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:04 pm to DaleDenton
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Ken Hatfield over Jimmie Johnson.
Ouch
I think Jimmie is good with that decision though.
Clearly.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:05 pm to Mizzeaux
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but Pinkel's done pretty well for us.
He won't be back in 2014 with another 2012 type year this season.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:07 pm to cas4t
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Ouch
I think Jimmie is good with that decision though.
Clearly.
He was hurt by it, seriously, he was promised the job if he did all these things like become a HC on his own which he did at OSU. He thought he was a shoe-in to replace Holtz, but his recruiting tactics made Frank's decision for him and Frank went with his team mate who was the HC at Air Force at the time.
Arkansas and Baylor were the only programs not to go on probation/sanctions during that time in the SWC, Johnson would have had us right there with the rest of them.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:07 pm to DaleDenton
Rather off topic but here's a fun fact.
Joe dean didnt want to pay nick Saban his asking price. He is quoted in one of the history of LSU football books " I told Mark we don't have to pay him that, I can get him for cheaper than what he's asking". Emmert basically told him to stfu and pay him what he wants. Thank God
Point being the old boy network that use to run many SEC athletic departments were total fricking disasters
Joe dean didnt want to pay nick Saban his asking price. He is quoted in one of the history of LSU football books " I told Mark we don't have to pay him that, I can get him for cheaper than what he's asking". Emmert basically told him to stfu and pay him what he wants. Thank God
Point being the old boy network that use to run many SEC athletic departments were total fricking disasters
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