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re: Where do you rank the Iron Bowl among the greatest rivalries in sports?

Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:33 pm to
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:33 pm to
I do.
It took awhile, though. A good long while.
(I inadvertently/mistakenly call them Oilers more times than I refer to em as Texans)
But my fandom for the Texans isn't in the same universe as my feelings for the Ags.
As you referenced earlier, the Bud Adams nightmare likely has much to do w that.
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:33 pm to
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What makes the rivalry great to those in the state of Alabama likely doesn't have the same effect in Wisconsin.


Which goes back to my point. The Southeast is traditionally a college sports region. Hell, for years everyone in this part of the country cheered for the Braves because that was the only MLB team. Pretty much still is. And only 2 states had NFL teams.
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:37 pm to
I don't disagree w your premise (hell, I'm as collegiately wired as they come); just repeating that b/c the IB is legendary to you, doesn't make it so to the population at large.

Good stuff.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:38 pm to
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I do.
It took awhile, though. A good long while.


That makes sense.

Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:43 pm to
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just repeating that b/c the IB is legendary to you, doesn't make it so to the population at large.



Oh, I agree. My original point (somewhere in this thread :lol) was that rivalries involving same or bordering states are more intense than rivalries of teams from opposite coasts/different regions. But yeah, being pro or college really shouldn't be an argument. But hey, I'll go with what Tbird said. Rivalries are rivalries. I personally have just never been in a situation where I hated a team that was 1,000 miles away, as much as I hate Tennessee or Auburn.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:46 pm to
It's easily one of the top 5-10. And as much as It completely defines the state if Alabama, and as much as ESPN tries to force feed it on the rest of the CFB world, I'm just not so sure how it really means that much to everyone outside those 2 schools. This year, yeah , clearly the biggest game so far. But not last year or the year before. ARMY-NAVY biggest rivalry by far and away, as it should be. But I think that most without ties to the schools think it's significant , but no more than the ones they hold as Important. If you look at certain games/ rivalries , there are ones that will always be on CBS, the priet game, IB, WLOCP, DSOR, TSIO, LSU-BAMA, this will never change( unless the conf does away with perm cross of course) but you get my point. The thing is , the IB, naturally is a meaningful yearly part of AU/UA life , but why is it important the it must be the biggest Rivaly , just as long as it means something to you should be enough, why do you care if someone in Kallamazoo MI thinks it's big, cause they probably don't.
Posted by EKG
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:47 pm to
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Rivalries are rivalries. I personally have just never been in a situation where I hated a team that was 1,000 miles away, as much as I hate [utex] or [tx tech].

I'm w you (w edits) 100%.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:48 pm to
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ARMY-NAVY


frick that game
Posted by Rig
BHM
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:48 pm to
It's the best in college football.

Sox/Yanks the best in baseball.

Celtic/Rangers the best in soccer.

Lakers/Celtics the best in NBA.

Redskins/Cowboys the best in NFL.

Duke/UNC the best in college hoops.

Men/Women the best in life.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:50 pm to
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It's the best in college football.


Michigan/tOSU>IB

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Sox/Yanks the best in baseball.


Agreed.

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Lakers/Celtics the best in NBA.


Agreed.

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Redskins/Cowboys the best in NFL.


Disagree.

ALL of the NFC East games are bloodlust rivalries.

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Men/Women the best in life.


We currently hold the series lead
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:53 pm to
For a little perspective, I'm from Minnesota and the Vikings and Packers are fierce rivals. This is for to the teams proximity and their history of being in the same division. I've been to Viking-Packer games, but it doesn't even remotely compare to AU-UA.
I'd personally put it #1 in all of sports because of how it divides the state and even families. Talk of the two teams literally goes on 365 days a year.
I'd put Duke-Carolina #2 and Yankees-Red Sox #3.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:54 pm to
When you get 10+ Admirals and 5 Star Generals at the IB, let me know. Or they start playing annually without a single scholarship player, who's about to fight for your right to sit home and watch your aggies play, let ms know. Till then , there is no question. It just is!
IB. 78 games
A-N. 114. This year.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:55 pm to
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... because of how it divides the state and even families. Talk of the two teams literally goes on 365 days a year.

A&M/UTex is the exact same.
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 11:56 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/1/13 at 11:58 pm to
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I'd personally put it #1 in all of sports because of how it divides the state and even families. Talk of the two teams literally goes on 365 days a year.


That's not really unique to the Iron Bowl, though.

The Texas A&M/texas rivalry is literally on hold because of the strife between the schools (something AU/Bama had happen, as well), and it divides families all over the state.

Michigan/ohio is HUGE. I don't think folks in the southeast appreciate that.

shite, even the Border War (kansas/Mizzou) is bitter as hell.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:04 am to
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because of how it divides the state and even families. Talk of the two teams literally goes on 365 days a year.
that isnt unique
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:46 am to
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Posted by WestCoastAg quote: because of how it divides the state and even families. Talk of the two teams literally goes on 365 days a year. that isnt unique


I was thinking in terms of Celtics-Lakers or some of the NFL rivalries. They are eliminated because they aren't talked about all year. Other rivalries are eliminated because the teams aren't really close in distance.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:47 am to
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I was thinking in terms of Celtics-Lakers or some of the NFL rivalries. They are eliminated because they aren't talked about all year
and alabama and auburn is? maybe in the state of alabama it is. but the celtic/laker rivalry gets a shite load of attention in the city of LA
Posted by RedMustang
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:10 am to
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and alabama and auburn is? maybe in the state of alabama it is. but the celtic/laker rivalry gets a shite load of attention in the city of LA


The fans don't really care about basketball in the offseason. Besides who do they talk with for 365 days a year? The two cities aren't even close.
Army-Navy? Please no. I'm a huge college football fan and the game doesn't interest me in the least. Ask any average fan and they'd say the same thing. Just check the TV ratings for the Iron Bowl and the Army-Navy game.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:13 am to
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The fans don't really care about basketball in the offseason.


False.

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Army-Navy? Please no. I'm a huge college football fan and the game doesn't interest me in the least. Ask any average fan and they'd say the same thing. Just check the TV ratings for the Iron Bowl and the Army-Navy game.


Agree.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145129 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:43 am to
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The fans don't really care about basketball in the offseason
you do understand LA is considered one of the biggest, if not the biggest, basketball cities right? its lakers 24/7 in LA and everyone hates the celtics. everyone. my 88 year old grandmother refuses to wear green clothing

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Besides who do they talk with for 365 days a year? The two cities aren't even close
just because LA and boston arent within 90 miles of each other doesnt mean the two dont hate eachother
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 1:44 am
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