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re: What is the statute of limitations on college football "Elite Status?"

Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:55 pm to
Shut the frick up
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:56 pm to
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ND, MI, Nebraska and TN are still elite programs.


They need to prove it on the field.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:56 pm to
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Someone like Nebraska is an interesting case to me. Miami as well. Their best was some of the best ever, but now they are 8-9 win teams annually



I couldn't include them. They're on the cusp. Similar to UGA, Auburn, and LSU, but for different reasons. Miami and Nebraska are close on legacy, but out due to future. Teams like UGA, Auburn and LSU have the potential to replace those former elite teams.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:57 pm to
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What is the "Elite Status" statute of limitations?


According to the Big 10 homers in this forum, the answer is "What is 100 or more years?", Alex.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:59 pm to
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ND, MI, Nebraska and TN are still elite programs.



Nebraska is the least of the 4. It's not just about proximity to winning. You have to look a likelihood of future success, how big the brand is and can be nationally, how recruiting will likely fare in the future, etc.

Nebraska isn't returning to glory in any of those areas. Michigan probably will. Tennessee might. Notre Dame is different because the brand will continue to do well, which will drive some talent and attention to the program for longer than it probably should.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:01 pm to
5 years for conference championship
20 years for national championship
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:01 pm to
If you say so. Just like the so called experts that said no northern team would ever win a national title again. lol.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:02 pm to
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lol only an idiot would list Nebraska.



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ND is still elite



you sorry, sorry individual. I guess the bigger they are the harder they fall....NE was a legit juggernaut the likes of which have rarely been seen in history, but this aint 95 bruh.

Since Nebraska's loss to Miami in the NCG, they have gone 101-60 (63%). Is that terrible? No, of course not....but it damn sure aint elite.

Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:02 pm to
Recruits don't care about historic programs. They care about 1) which position coach can turn them into an NFL player and 2) a destination "climate city" on the coast somewhere
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:02 pm to
10 years.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:03 pm to
It is called a down period. You want me to post Alabama's losing decade prior to Saban? I guess they were no longer elite during that period...lol.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:06 pm to
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It is called a down period


No, a couple year blip is a down period. 15 years isn't an aberration bud.

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You want me to post Alabama's losing decade prior to Saban?


Do you think anyone in 2007 would have called bama elite? No, they woudn't have. Historically? Sure, there will never be a time in the next 50 years that alabama (and notre dame for that matter) aren't looked at as an all time, historically elite program. It's not possible. But from the early/mid 90s through 2007 bama was just kinda meh. 1 SEC title and some pretty damn BAD years too.

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I guess they were no longer elite during that period...lol.


Ummmm, correct. They were not.



YOu need to look up what "elite" means. There can't be 20 elite teams every year. It's fluid. It changes.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:06 pm to
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You have to combine historical power with some likelihood of that power continuing unchanged in the future.

Only Alabama qualifies under that criteria in the SEC. Nationally I'd look at Ohio State, USCw, etc. but no more than 5-6 programs. People throw around the word elite too much.




I'm not even sure I'd throw USCw in there. The only for sures would be Bama and OSU if we're talking today's teams, maybe FSU.
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:11 pm to
If you want to continue on with this dumb argument, then that makes Georgia a worse program than Colorado and Georgia Tech. lol.

Let me guess, you are a part of the "college football started in 2008" crowd and think only things that have transpired since that time should be considered and everything in the past should be burned.

When some of you yahoo's are 50 years old you will start to realize how dumb of you sound with your little 2 and 5 year timeframes. lol.

It takes generations to pass to be removed from elite status, not some dumb 10 year time span. lol.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79189 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:13 pm to
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If you say so. Just like the so called experts that said no northern team would ever win a national title again. lol.



Most of us are incredibly biased toward the south but wouldn't have said such a thing.

Honestly, you think Nebraska will return, with some level of consistency, to the elite ranks of CFB?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:13 pm to
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that makes Georgia a worse program than Colorado and Georgia Tech


If you're so incredibly short sighted that your only criteria is a national title (or shared one), which would be retarded. Ya know....wins, bowls, BCS appearances, conference titles...those things kind of matter a little bit too.

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Let me guess, you are a part of the "college football started in 2008"


you're an idiot

Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:16 pm to
Let's pretend you are 30 years old and your child was born today. You live the next 16 years old watching Georgia play football and they win some games here and there but no national championship.

Your child turns 16 years old and you tell your son how great Georgia football is. Your sun starts to laugh at you and says Georgia football sucks. You then start to lecture your son about the history of Georgia football and how it is good.

lol.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:17 pm to
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Your sun starts to laugh at you and says Georgia football sucks. You then start to lecture your son about the history of Georgia football and how it is good.


They are better than Nebraska at least
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:18 pm to
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Let's pretend you are 30 years old and your child was born today. You live the next 16 years old watching Georgia play football and they win some games here and there but no national championship.

Your child turns 16 years old and you tell your son how great Georgia football is. Your sun starts to laugh at you and says Georgia football sucks. You then start to lecture your son about the history of Georgia football and how it is good.

lol.


At no point in your retarded, rambling bullshite did you ever acknowledge the fact that I haven't, don't currently, and wouldn't at that future point in time call UGA elite either, you dumbfrick.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:18 pm to
Maybe it depends on when you became "elite".

Michigan is considered an elite program by most, but has only finished #1 twice in the poll era (1948,1997). It has a lot to do with the fact that they were one of the great teams through the first 70 years of college football.

BYU has the same number of NC's in the past 67 years, but isn't considered elite by anyone.
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