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re: What is the statute of limitations on college football "Elite Status?"
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:27 pm to c on z
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:27 pm to c on z
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kills being kills.
I'm actually discussing sports which is rare. It seems I piss off more people when I discuss sports than when I drop a cartoon troll thread.
Weird.
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:29 pm to mizzoukills
1981 and forward. If you haven't won a title by then it's just a shame and you should accept being average.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:29 pm to mizzoukills
trust me....you'll never have to worry about it
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:30 pm to mizzoukills
Princeton would kick the shite out of bama.
All time speaking, of course
As would army
All time speaking, of course
As would army
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:31 pm to mizzoukills
There are only a few elite programs imo. Only one in the SEC.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:35 pm to Crowknowsbest
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There are only a few elite programs imo. Only one in the SEC
Yeah, I don't consider UGA elite on a national scale. I'm not even sure I'd consider them elite on an SEC scale.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:35 pm to mizzoukills
Personally i wouldnt consider LSU in elite status anymore. They're still good and if they ever found a capable qb they could go on a 3-4 run of at least playing for conference championships or even NC's.
But right now i'd have them outside of elite status.
But right now i'd have them outside of elite status.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:36 pm to bbap
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Personally i wouldnt consider LSU in elite status anymore
They won't like to hear that...
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:37 pm to bbap
Alabama is elite. Florida used to be. Auburn is too up and down. So one elite team in the SEC.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:38 pm to mizzoukills
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They won't like to hear that...
they = me too. I'm an LSU fan.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:39 pm to mizzoukills
In my opinion Alabama is the only elite program in the SEC.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:40 pm to Crowknowsbest
There is no specific limitation, but if a couple of generations pass and you are not winning anything, then you become the next Minnesota.
When my grandparents passed away recently, they viewed Minnesota as a contender since they were winning national championships when they were growing up. The next generation didn't see Minnesota winning at that same level. Then the next generation came and Minnesota wasn't anything people cared much about.
So it takes a long time to get dropped from the elite status.
Using a dumb cutoff time like 1980 is just dumb. It has more to do with who is relevant in the lifetime of your parents and your own and then into your child's generation.
When my grandparents passed away recently, they viewed Minnesota as a contender since they were winning national championships when they were growing up. The next generation didn't see Minnesota winning at that same level. Then the next generation came and Minnesota wasn't anything people cared much about.
So it takes a long time to get dropped from the elite status.
Using a dumb cutoff time like 1980 is just dumb. It has more to do with who is relevant in the lifetime of your parents and your own and then into your child's generation.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:40 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Yeah, I don't consider UGA elite on a national scale. I'm not even sure I'd consider them elite on an SEC scale.
You have to combine historical power with some likelihood of that power continuing unchanged in the future.
Only Alabama qualifies under that criteria in the SEC. Nationally I'd look at Ohio State, USCw, etc. but no more than 5-6 programs. People throw around the word elite too much.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:42 pm to allin2010
The thing about Bama is that even when they suxed you knew they would be back.
Same with Mi ND USC. Even when they are down you know they will be back.
Same with Mi ND USC. Even when they are down you know they will be back.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:42 pm to Crowknowsbest
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People throw around the word elite too much.
Interdasting...
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:44 pm to mizzoukills
Whatever they are, Tennessee is currently exploring the boundaries.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:50 pm to BreakawayZou83
I think you can say there are 10 or so elite programs, meaning less than 10% are elite
Someone like Nebraska is an interesting case to me. Miami as well. Their best was some of the best ever, but now they are 8-9 win teams annually
Someone like Nebraska is an interesting case to me. Miami as well. Their best was some of the best ever, but now they are 8-9 win teams annually
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:50 pm to CBandits82
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Some programs just "have it".
Others don't
Ug, I want to downvote you but you are so right.
College Football is such tribal caste system bullshite. Luckily the coaches and recruits don't have the same priorities the fans do or only like ten teams could even have a chance every year.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:53 pm to Buckeye06
lol only an idiot would list Nebraska. We played for a national title in the 2000's and remained consistent in winning games.
It was only 19 years ago that the best college football team ever was played. Since that time more conference titles were won, more games played for national titles, and more rankings as the #1 team.
Michigan has far fewer national titles over the last 50 years than Nebraska.
Michigan is still an elite program even with their lack of national titles over the last 50 years.
You don't drop off the elite status by using a mythical time frame that random yahoos like to use.
ND, MI, Nebraska and TN are still elite programs.
It was only 19 years ago that the best college football team ever was played. Since that time more conference titles were won, more games played for national titles, and more rankings as the #1 team.
Michigan has far fewer national titles over the last 50 years than Nebraska.
Michigan is still an elite program even with their lack of national titles over the last 50 years.
You don't drop off the elite status by using a mythical time frame that random yahoos like to use.
ND, MI, Nebraska and TN are still elite programs.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 2:54 pm to Herman Frisco
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Same with Mi ND USC. Even when they are down you know they will be back.
Like Minnesota? Nebraska? Miami?
Fact is that the game is changing all the time and it's harder than ever to compete. A program like Oregon has more prestige with today's 18 year olds than a Miami that has won three national titles in my lifetime.
The fans haven't caught up, you still hear fans say shite like "college football is better when Bama/Ohio St./Michigan/USC/Texas/etc. is good." Recruits seem to care less about history than the fans, which gives me hope for the future of the game.
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