re: What is a reasonable amount of time for a coach to win a national championship

15 games

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it is just not reasonable to expect that everyone can or should win a national title in any particular life time.

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For how much UGA fans tout their program I would expect them to at least have a more recent title/more titles than another team in their same metro area.

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Out of 120 teams, how many have EVER won a national title?

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over 350 titles have been won by roughly 60 teams

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They should win a national championship in their first 5 years at a top program

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That is the wrong kind of pressure to put on and do you mean current power, or traditional power?

Traditional - Texas (Strong), Michigan (Harbaugh), Miami (Golden), Penn St (Franklin), USC (Sarkisian), Nebraska (Riley), Tennessee (Jones),

Current - Oregon (Helfrich), UCLA (Mora), Stanford (Shaw)

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If they don't win one by the 10th year it's time for a change.

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So send Patterson packing?

Art Briles in his 8th year and Dantonio in his 9th year, so they only have a couple years to win it all, or you'll say, f**k off? Ridiculous!

I know all three of these programs are glad to have these coaches. After being stuck in the mud for decades going nowhere, all of these teams are in the top 10. Getting big name recruits on a regular basis. Winning conference championships for the first time, consecutive double digit winning seasons for the first time. Being even considered as a contender for the championship.

Even Dabo. They haven't had a real successful team since the late 80s. Now in his 8th year they have either won or tied for the conference championship 3 times, and 4 straight 10 win season going on their fifth this year. The recruiting has picked up significantly and they are putting a good amount of players into the NFL.


What if Ole Miss is becoming a top program and that 2013 recruiting season wasn't a fluke? Look at their recruiting for 2015 and 2016.

Same thing for TAMU? While I don't think their defense has improved as much as people want to believe, it should get there within the next few years, and they are at least trying to be more balanced on offense.

What if they start becoming annual double digit winning teams? I can't honestly see a bunch of fans wanting to fire the HC if they don't win a national championship. WAY too many other factors involved like division, conference, plus other strong OOC powers. Having a conference championship game (true champion) was pretty much the deciding factor in Ohio State sneaking in at #4 over TCU/Baylor.

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Here's a question, does Georgia do so well with recruitment because of Richt or because it's Georgia?

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Let me rephrase. Could a bad coach recruit well at Georgia?

Well it really depends on the school. Some schools will never win it no matter the Coach. I don't think Saban, Myer, Miles, etc could get a progran like Vandy to win it all. There are not that many schools that have everything needed to be able to win it all.

For a top tier SEC team I would say 5 years is reasonable time to get the program in position to be a consistent player at years end. Even after that length of time it still takes a lot of good fortune to make it all the way.





What a load of crap, Richt is one of the best coaches in the SEC (top 4). He has done a great Job at UGA and I don't think they're is a coach that would be available that is any better. Richt is a class act and a great asset to the SEC.

UGA is consistently in the mix for the SEC championship. Sure he hasn't won it recently but look at the competition he's faced in the seccg. I feel he will eventually make it to the CFPO and win it within the next 2-5 years. Switcing coaches isn't going to get UGA there any sooner and more than likely would set them back.

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if he doesn't win the East, fire his arse. If he wins the East and loses to the West barely(which is what will happen), then you keep him but put him on notice. If he doesn't win the whole thing next year(which won't happen), fire his arse.

So preemptively, you should probably fire his arse.

With all the money, resources, and pretty much first pick of kids in the state of GA, there is no reason why he shouldn't have already. none

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Let me rephrase. Could a bad coach recruit well at Georgia?

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Depends on the time frame. A shitty coach could come in and recruit well for a couple years by "selling the dream." If he didn't turn that into wins, it would fall apart quickly. There's too much competition for recruits in Georgia.

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It took Dr. Tom 21 years to win his first national championship, Paterno needed 16 years and Bowden didn't win his first national title until his 18th year. Those are arguably the three greatest coaches of all-time not named Bryant.

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Well, this settles it.

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Georgia is in the greatest conference and already had a National Championship and the feel of a top program before Richt took over. He has done little and does not compare

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If luck had been on our side, we could have been in 3 NC's by now.

Richt has won the SEC twice and has won the east countless other times in his tenure. If two of the best active coaches hadn't spent considerable time in this conference there is no telling what Richt could have won by now.

This thread was a nice troll attempt, but anyone who watches and understands football isn't going to bite on this hook.