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re: What is a reasonable amount of time for a coach to win a national championship

Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:17 am to
Posted by Jimmy Johns
Opie and Anthony
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:17 am to
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You must be talking about 3-4 years at a new school. I do know that neither Saban,Bryant, nor Meyer won a championship in 3-4 years of becoming a head coach



Correct new hire.

Richt is not tier 1 head coach material and blue blood programs would have fired him by now
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2358 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:21 am to
Sumlin is not very good. Good recruiter...not a good coach
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:28 am to
So spurrier wasn't good at Florida I guess. Took him seven.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:34 am to
we'll see. I think he has all the pieces he needs now. if he doesn't contend for the West this year and next, then I'll be pretty down on him.
Posted by Jimmy Johns
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:34 am to
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So spurrier wasn't good at Florida I guess. Took him seven.



Other than proving to be one of the most overrated coaches of all-time he has done well.

Cock fans can rest easy knowing they may win a couple games this year
Posted by BaconGrease
Memphis Tenn
Member since Jun 2013
759 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:40 am to
Your avatar logo looks like the mouth on a sexdoll. Er, so I've heard.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5828 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:45 am to
Isn't there a yankee board you can hang out on?
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:52 am to
So you'd fire a coach that pretty much lives in the top 10? And he's been razor thin close to 3. Trust me, I felt every dam one of them.
Posted by ohsfan281
Member since Sep 2015
149 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:53 am to
Why do I need to hang out on a Yankee board? If you think my username is for Ohio State, you obviously fit the stereotype that southerners are stupid
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:56 am to
SOS one of the most overrated coaches of all time? The stuff you learn on the Internet....
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38270 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:42 am to
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3-4 years

Almost all coaches considered the best of all-time have done this

Unfortunately Richt is a second tier coach



Took Mac Brown 7 at Texas. And he could pool all of that Texas talent.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 3:31 am to
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Question is: Who will Georgia get that's better than Richt? He has GA in the hunt for the East every year it seems.



Lane Kiffin.


Nuh-uh.

Will.

Mother.

frickin'.

Muschamp.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3152 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:13 am to
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what's the point in playing if you're not playing to win a championship?


Ya'll just built a shiny new addition so your team can continue to not play to win a championship.


Some coaches just aren't championship caliber coaches at their specific programs. That doesn't mean you should fire them because it's unlikely that you will get anything better and your team will move from mediocrity to a complete dumpster fire.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:17 am to
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I am just wondering because I know some Georgia fans who think Mark Richt needs more time even if he doesn't win it this year. 15 years seems more than an adequate amount of time imo. I am cufious as to what other people believe


CMR is only in his 3rd year @ UGA under a new President who appreciates and accommodates athletics. He now has vast resources along with a renewed booster following eager to donate whatever's needed to get things done that were denied in his first 11-12 years.

I also agree on the five year plan and he's year three into it.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
59498 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 5:28 am to
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Richt is not tier 1 head coach material and blue blood programs would have fired him by now

What if Florida State did that with Bowden? 16 years. Or nebraska with Tom Osborne? 22 years. Paterno 17 years. Currently Gary Patterson. Frank Beamer

If you're consistently winning conference championships and going to major bowls that's a sign of a good coach. You also have to have a little luck to get into a NC situation. Like LSU in 2007. Like Bama 2011. Who missed out on that kind of luck? Auburn 2004, TCU last year. But you're going to tell me Gary Patterson is a bad coach?

If NC's are the only sign of a good coach to keep or fire, Gene chizik should be in the college football HOF correct?
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 5:33 am
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3696 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:06 am to
So sumlin has what a year to win a title or he's gone? I think if a coach is winning 8 plus games in the sec you keep him if 8 wins is his floor and most years your looking at 10 wins. SEC west is brutal. MR is a good coach and recruiter. Keep him until he leaves
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14811 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:16 am to
it's so hard to win a natty. I mean aside from Meyer and Saban, who has won one in the last 5 years? Jimbo? Look at FSU now. Tons of talent but without Jameis that offense ain't clicking. Most coaches need that perfect storm to win. Meyer and Saban are on an entirely different level. That said, you should have. 10 win season within the first 5 years if your coach is worth a damn.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:21 am to
It depends entirely on program; treating Iowa St like Bama is ludicrous.
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:23 am to
All depends on the Expectations of the AD and his employer Not the Fans..
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5591 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:40 am to
Never, most coaches never do
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