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re: Wait I'm confused. Do auburn fans think Kevin Steele is good?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:42 pm to airfernando
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:42 pm to airfernando
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not to mention Les steering Steele to Auburn bc Les didn't think Steele was good enough.
Even if it was true it didn't work out well for Miles when he went against Steele, now did it? Can-hammer.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:42 pm to TJGator1215
Steele definitely doesn't have more to work with at auburn. Check recruiting. He had a more reliable offense that allowed him to take more risks on defense. Auburn beating LSU because our coach is unorganized and can't control the clock isn't anything to brag about. We drove right down the field on auburn and should have won the game, auburns defense didn't win the game, LSUs head coach lost it on the last play by 1 second. Lol, steele Is hot garbage.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:44 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
What's really telling is that aranda comes in and with the same players, in his first year, fielded a way better defense than steele did at lsu. Aranda is a much betterm dc, if you don't think so, you're a dumbass auburn fan.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:44 pm to airfernando
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Les wanted Aranda when he hired Steele. Les was blocked from hiring Aranda. He did not want steele, but Les had very few options when he hired steele bc his hands were tied. You are completely ignorant of the circumstances in which Steele was hired at LSU, not to mention Les steering Steele to Auburn bc Les didn't think Steele was good enough
Holy spin mode Batman.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:45 pm to GermantownTiger
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When did this happen?
Remember, we lived thru Ellis Johnson. Steele is great compared to EJ.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:49 pm to AU24
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Maybe when we beat LSU with 6 FGs
Or was it when we held Clemson to 19 points while the offense played 5 different QBs and was doing pirouettes in the backfield?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:49 pm to JamalSanders
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Holy spin mode Batman.
That's not spin. Alleva wanted Miles out after Chavis left so he limited the contract length to 1 year on any potential DC they would sign. They reached out to Aranda and he refused. Once Steele was out, Aranda was already on speed dial for Alleva and that's why he was hired so quickly to a much better deal.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:52 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:You've lived through 5 DC's in the last 8 yrs, it can't be easy to field a quality D when you have a coaching carousel.
Remember, we lived thru Ellis Johnson. Steele is great compared to EJ.
Stability is what AU needed, and Steele was able to take what Muschamp had in place and add/develop from it. This year should be even better.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:53 pm to RT1941
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This year should be even better.
As long as Steele doesn't try to implement anything of his own, sure.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:55 pm to rmnldr
If he just sticks to what he had last year with the added depth and experience, AU should be good.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:55 pm to rmnldr
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As long as Steele doesn't try to implement anything of his own, sure.
Auburns defense got statistically better as the season went on. This as our starting QB and starting RB were injured resulting in lots of 3 and outs
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:57 pm to RT1941
All I know is that he took an awesome LSU defense that at the end of 2014 could've played with anyone and absolutely ruined them.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:03 pm to rmnldr
LSU was a team full of holes on defense when Steele arrived. Hadn't recruited LBs, DL was bad, got pushed around by ND, and any team at all physical...I mean dominated (just like Auburn dominated LSU last year... LSU was lucky to keep that game close enough to have a chance to win). The LSU D had been recruited to stop spread teams - safeties converted to LB etc., and just couldn't match up with power teams.
Steele had to organize a defense to stop the power, and he did it by playing zone and bring a secondary player up for run support. BUT... the secondary players wanted to show off their skills at man, and sulked and pouted and just did their own thing...and the defense didn't perform very well.. but that was not Steele's fault. The players knew who ran the show - Miles - and just ignored Steele for the most part.
In the meantime, a bunch of LSU fans who know nothing about defense football started a chant about Steele and the rest of the monkey-sees picked it up. Dumbest most ignorant thing since the discussion about Chavis. It was BS then and seeing who is commenting in this line from LSU, it is BS now.
What Steele has at Auburn are players who will listen instead of being undisciplined.
Steele had to organize a defense to stop the power, and he did it by playing zone and bring a secondary player up for run support. BUT... the secondary players wanted to show off their skills at man, and sulked and pouted and just did their own thing...and the defense didn't perform very well.. but that was not Steele's fault. The players knew who ran the show - Miles - and just ignored Steele for the most part.
In the meantime, a bunch of LSU fans who know nothing about defense football started a chant about Steele and the rest of the monkey-sees picked it up. Dumbest most ignorant thing since the discussion about Chavis. It was BS then and seeing who is commenting in this line from LSU, it is BS now.
What Steele has at Auburn are players who will listen instead of being undisciplined.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:04 pm to rmnldr
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All I know is
apparently not much...
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awesome LSU defense that at the end of 2014 could've played with anyone and absolutely ruined them.
He also took a shitty defense and made them great.
LSU 2014 D's was statistically good at points allowed on the season because of a few games. Most of the decent teams, they didnt do so well. The only team really held in check was OM
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:07 pm to GermantownTiger
Kevin Steele is the main guy, but Travis Williams is another big part of why our D has vastly improved. There's a night and day difference in our LB play since that God awful Jake Holland and Kris Frost were our MLB's.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:08 pm to Irons Puppet
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Remember, we lived thru Ellis Johnson.
EJ lead the AU defense for 40 years in the desert without mana. That was a dark time.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:10 pm to NYCAuburn
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The only team really held in check was OM
And Alabama...
And then after that awful 2015 season, Aranda comes in and turns that awful defense into a top 10 nationally defense.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:10 pm to Jacknola
Uh no, steele fricking blows and aranda was there for the taking so we told him to look for employment elsewhere, that's what happened. We made the right choice bc aranda is a better dc. If aranda wasn't available, steele may still be the dc at lsu. Using the ND game to prove lsu had holes on defense is stupid. LSU got fricked out of that game too on a bs non-td call on a fake FG before the half. With those points we win. Anyway, chavis was already recruiting for texas am and had not prepared our defense for the bowl game and we still should have won, that's what happened. It's funny that a bandwagon bama fan, thats prob has no ties to alabama or the university, believes he knows more about LSU football than LSU fans.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:11 pm to rmnldr
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Alleva wanted Miles out after Chavis left so he limited the contract length to 1 year on any potential DC they would sign. They reached out to Aranda and he refused. Once Steele was out, Aranda was already on speed dial for Alleva and that's why he was hired so quickly to a much better deal.
Then why give aranda a multi year deal when ever knew you were trying to axe miles?
Lsu was desperate for any decent DC after Gus poached Steele so they threw the kitchen sink at aranda. He knew that worst case scenario, he would have a nice payday.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:16 pm to Jacknola
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LSU was a team full of holes on defense when Steele arrived. Hadn't recruited LBs, DL was bad, got pushed around by ND, and any team at all physical...I mean dominated (just like Auburn dominated LSU last year... LSU was lucky to keep that game close enough to have a chance to win). The LSU D had been recruited to stop spread teams - safeties converted to LB etc., and just couldn't match up with power teams.
And Aranda came in with the exact same talent and turned them into a top 10 nationally defense.
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Steele had to organize a defense to stop the power, and he did it by playing zone and bring a secondary player up for run support. BUT... the secondary players wanted to show off their skills at man, and sulked and pouted and just did their own thing...and the defense didn't perform very well.. but that was not Steele's fault. The players knew who ran the show - Miles - and just ignored Steele for the most part.
And Aranda came in the next season with the exact same talent and implemented an entirely new scheme unlike what Steele said he would do and they became a top 10 defense. Steele ran cover 4 all fricking game and it got torched all the damn time.
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In the meantime, a bunch of LSU fans who know nothing about defense football started a chant about Steele and the rest of the monkey-sees picked it up. Dumbest most ignorant thing since the discussion about Chavis. It was BS then and seeing who is commenting in this line from LSU, it is BS now.
Yeah we said Chavis was overrated and wow would you look at that? Chavis sucks at A&M. You're an idiot.
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What Steele has at Auburn are players who will listen instead of being undisciplined.
Right. The players were disciplined under Chavis, became undisciplined under Steele, and then a year later become disciplined under Aranda. frick off.
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Then why give aranda a multi year deal when ever knew you were trying to axe miles?
Because they needed a defense. The admin stopped Alleva from firing Miles so he went out and got the best DC he could and they didn't include the "Miles clause" with him.
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Lsu was desperate for any decent DC after Gus poached Steele so they threw the kitchen sink at aranda. He knew that worst case scenario, he would have a nice payday.
Gus didn't "poach" Steele. His contract wasn't renewed and Les/Alleva told him to find a job.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 1:19 pm
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