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re: USA Today Reports 2013 Athletics Revenues for each School

Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:34 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:34 am to
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Except for the fact that they're including donations in total revenues.


If Im not mistaken they all include donations in total revenue. the foundations are a part of the AD's
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:46 am to
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Aggies, if you can't pull in more money than Kentucky


Both LSU and Texas A&M will be moving up this list, due to expanded stadiums. LSU goes from 92,542 to just over 100,000, with the vast majority of the addition being premium seating except for 1,500 general seats, mostly for visitors. There will also be around 1,500 Standing Room Only (SRO) seats on the top. The Aggies will be making bank off those Founder's suites...



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FOUNDERS SUITE 28 Seats

Located between the 20-yard lines, the 28-seat Founders Suites offer the ultimate Kyle Field experience and feature 20 plush, 22-inch wide, cushioned, covered and open-air seats, and eight barstools.

These ultra luxurious, approximately 960 square-foot suites will feature extremely high end finishes and a premier view of the field. You also have the option to open the glass in your suite to experience the full game-day atmosphere and ambiance of Kyle Field.

The Founders Suites open up into the exclusive Founders Lounge, available only to those seated in the Founders Suites.

SEAT WIDTH: 22" SEAT DETAILS
Armchair Padded Seat Cupholder Champions Hall Access West Club Access Full Service Bar Premium Concessions Escalator Elevator


FOUNDERS SUITE

Texas A&M also adds a significant amount of regular-sized suites, other types of premium seats, and will have the most SRO of any stadium in the SEC.




This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 11:47 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:48 am to
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We have enough money to buy Kentucky $$$$


You do realize oil in TX will deplete about 500 years before the coal in KY will give out right? Also, KY and TN have hydroelectric which is renewable till as long as the rivers flow.
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:49 am to
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Vanderbilt didn't have to report numbers.


Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:50 am to
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If Im not mistaken they all include donations in total revenue. the foundations are a part of the AD's


I don't believe that's correct, at least in LSU's case. For example, the new south end zone addition is not being built by LSU, but rather the Tiger Athletic Foundation. As with most athletic projects at LSU, the land where the addition is built is leased to TAF, then given back to the school when the project is finished.
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:52 am to
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I don't believe that's correct,


As in, included in their total revenue number. I am pretty sure it is
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For example, the new south end zone addition is not being built by LSU, but rather the Tiger Athletic Foundation. As with most athletic projects at LSU, the land where the addition is built is leased to TAF, then given back to the school when the project is finished.



most schools do it this way and has nothing to do with Annual total revenue

This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 11:54 am
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:55 am to
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As in, included in their total revenue number. I am pretty sure it is


I really do believe the money spent is reported under The TAF Capital Programs Fund, rather than the LSU sports budget.

Could be wrong.

Edit: It would be easy to check. LSU spent over $115 million on athletic projects this past year, with all them funded by TAF. IIRC, there isn't anywhere near a $115 million dollar difference in athletic spending between this past year and the year prior.
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:56 am to
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I really do believe the money spent is reported under The TAF Capital Programs Fund, rather than the LSU sports budget.

Could be wrong.


money spent=/=revenue, in fact its the opposite. And the foundations report to the AD
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 11:57 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:01 pm to
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You people are delusional.


Well look at it in terms of capacity and there is truth in the comment

Big 3 sports
Football = UT is Top5 in capacity
Basketball = UT is Top 5 in capacity
W Basketball = UT is Top 5 in capacity

Pretty sure no other school can claim this. Most big football schools do not have basketball capacity, and most big basketball school do not have big football capacity.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:02 pm to
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money spent=/=revenue, in fact its the opposite


I get that, see my post above. I'm saying the numbers don't add up. If you were correct, there would be a $115 million spike in LSU numbers between last year and the year prior. There isn't.

That said, I'm not 100% sure. And I don't think it makes much difference. Just trying to be precise here.

If you do find out for sure, please post.

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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:04 pm to
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Edit: It would be easy to check. LSU spent over $115 million on athletic projects this past year, with all them funded by TAF. IIRC, there isn't anywhere near a $115 million dollar difference in athletic spending between this past year and the year prior.


That spending though may be over one year, but as far as accounting they break it out over years. so you are not going to see a one time hit to expenditures for project like that
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:10 pm to
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That spending though may be over one year, but as far as accounting they break it out over years. so you are not going to see a one time hit to expenditures for project like that


Gotcha. I don't know for sure either way, I just wanted to be as precise as possible about the figures. I think it would be interesting to study LSU and Texas A&M's spending figures over a three year time period. The year prior to the spending, the actual year where the money was spent, and the year after.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:22 pm to
A&M needed the Skyboxes redone badly. They were cramped as hell and decorated during the Bear Bryant years.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:26 pm to
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Well look at it in terms of capacity and there is truth in the comment

Big 3 sports
Football = UT is Top5 in capacity
Basketball = UT is Top 5 in capacity
W Basketball = UT is Top 5 in capacity


As far as Big 3 sports, the list would include football, basketball, and baseball stadiums. The schools with the highest capacity of each of those combined would be Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, and Arkansas.

Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:27 pm to
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A&M needed the Skyboxes redone badly. They were cramped as hell and decorated during the Bear Bryant years.


Well, they sure did that then.

Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:30 pm to
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As far as Big 3 sports, the list would include football, basketball, and baseball stadiums.


Show me a baseball stadium that sells out 24,000 with regular games?

UL is in the Top 20 - Top 30 in revenue and YUM Center is way more valuable to the bottom line than Patterson.


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The schools with the highest capacity of each of those combined would be Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, and Arkansas.


All you have in Box is baseball. TB holds multiple sports, as does Rupp

UK M basketball + UK women's basketball (both in Rupp) >>>> LSU baseball (Box)
UT M basketball + UT women's basketball (both in Rupp) >>>> LSU baseball (Box)

If you do not understand this, then you should stay out of banking and finance professions.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:36 pm to
Uga played two ooc opponents on the road in addition to playing in aub for the second year in a row due to expansion, thus putting a huge dent in their revenue by losing out on what would have been 3 home games worth of cash.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Show me a baseball stadium that sells out 24,000 with regular games?


You're missing my point. I said "The schools with the highest capacity of each of those combined".

UT, LSU, and UA all have 100K stadiums. UT has the largest BB arena in that group at 24K, followed by Arkansas at 20K, UA at 12K, LSU at 11k. LSU and Arky have the largest baseball stadiums at 10K, followed by UT and UA at around 5.5K.

And there's a steep drop off in combined stadium capacity after that group.
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:38 pm to
lol @ State
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:40 pm to
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All you have in Box is baseball. TB holds multiple sports, as does Rupp

UK M basketball + UK women's basketball (both in Rupp) >>>> LSU baseball (Box)
UT M basketball + UT women's basketball (both in Rupp) >>>> LSU baseball (Box)

If you do not understand this, then you should stay out of banking and finance professions.


Well you seem to forget that LSU baseball sells more tickets than all but two basketball teams, Syracuse and Louisville.

So more than UT and UK basketball.

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