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re: USA Today Reports 2013 Athletics Revenues for each School

Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:08 am to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:08 am to
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Of course there is more to it, but ticket sales is easily the biggest contribution to revenue for everyone on that list.


No.

Media.

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Also, you generated more revenue from ticket sales because you have more premium seating. That will change soon.


True, we will be adding more while playing in WMS less.
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:13 am to
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Aggies, if you can't pull in more money than Kentucky WITH Johnny Football, how can you ever hope to gain admittance into the Big 6?



Texas A&M received the most donations ever by a public University last year ($740 million).

The 12th Man includes the largest student section in college football (larger than Bama and LSU combined). Students get cheap tickets.

When you come to play in the SEC's newest show place and largest stadium next year you will see how poor the Aggies are.

Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:15 am to
You can add 12 million more a year once new Kyle is finished for 12 suites alone. Add in the rest of the suites and new seating that's probably an easily 20 million. Plus our TV money went after after leaving the Big XII. Once the SEC gets its new deal we'll all take a big jump. I would expect A&M to be 130ish in 2 years.
Posted by Bob Ag
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:18 am to

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No.

Media.


It may seem like it, but its actually not. Ticket sales reported there are only face value and does not include the contributions people have to make to alumni associations and such for season tickets. That money is reported under contributions. So, in reality ticket sale revenues really include the face value plus the contribution, which easily surpasses most media rights for everyone on that list except maybe the horns.


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True, we will be adding more while playing in WMS less.


Yes, but on a percentage basis, A&M's increase in revenue from ticket sales and subsequent contributions is going to jump substantially more than anyone else.

Posted by hg
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:19 am to
Insecure Aggies are insecure
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:20 am to
No need for plurality friend.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:21 am to
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Way more to it than just ticket sales.


Not as far as the direct results towards revenue. Yes there are factors that drive ticket sales, But Revenue is driven by tickets sales
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:21 am to
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abellsujr


That's a huge drop from 7 to 8, and then 8 to 9. (Well, 1 to 2 and 2 to 3 also).
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:33 am to
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It may seem like it, but its actually not.


Single source, it is actually quite high, more to it than just the TV deal as each school has their own radio and internet deals.

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Ticket sales reported there are only face value and does not include the contributions people have to make to alumni associations and such for season tickets.


Which was the point I was making earlier, the tickets themselves contribute little compared to the donations to acquire said tickets.

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So, in reality ticket sale revenues really include the face value plus the contribution, which easily surpasses most media rights for everyone on that list except maybe the horns.


In reality you can contribute success in the sport to increasing revenue which drives the whole engine.

So to the original question as to why Wisconsin is so high, 3 BCS bowls, multiple 10 win seasons, multiple tourney appearances and a final four all within the last 5 years. A single good year will get a bump, sustained success really starts to see the cash rolling in.

This also brings up another issue in the SEC, the amount of money "left on the table" because of the lack of effort and commitment towards men's basketball...
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:37 am to
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Which was the point I was making earlier, the tickets themselves contribute little compared to the donations to acquire said tickets.


You know this is just wrong. I pointed out how just at Auburn ticket sales for one sport alone almost account for 50% of the revenue

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So to the original question as to why Wisconsin is so high, 3 BCS bowls, multiple 10 win seasons, multiple tourney appearances and a final four all within the last 5 years. A single good year will get a bump, sustained success really starts to see the cash rolling in.


does not explain a 40 million dollar or 40% increase in one year

Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:46 am to
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JFF sold that place out for two straight seasons,



The Aggies had 87,000+ {chocker block full] for Idaho when JFF was redshirting. That is why we are expanding the stadium.

But yes, demand for tickets increased when A&M joined the SEC.
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:53 am to
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Which was the point I was making earlier, the tickets themselves contribute little compared to the donations to acquire said tickets.


Its just semantics. In reality, when people purchase season tickets that require a contribution, they are not acting like their tickets only cost them face value.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22758 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:56 am to
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The 12th Man includes the largest student section in college football (larger than Bama and LSU combined). Students get cheap tickets.


So is there gay population.......only reason yall pack the house is to watch the male cheerleaders.
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:04 am to
You've devoted ten years of your life to this site and over 16000 posts and you bring that weak shite?

Have you considered retirement?
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:13 am to
Glad Tennesse is back making money.

Thank God Hamilton is long gone.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22758 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:23 am to
Bob I thought that A&M was good at Math....

16000/(10x365)= 2.7 post per day.

Glad I wasted one all yall.
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:27 am to
There are so many differences in accounting and structure of the athletic foundations of these schools that putting together a ranked list of "athletics revenue" is an exercise in futility.
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:29 am to
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Insecure Aggies are insecure


Its unreal.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:30 am to
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There are so many differences in accounting and structure of the athletic foundations of these schools that putting together a ranked list of "athletics revenue" is an exercise in futility.


yes and no, things like expenses, subsidies, profit, etc... in comparison, yes. However total revenue is total revenue. There are a few things from season to season that might cause a spike here and there but for the most part its a good comparison
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:31 am to
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yes and no, things like expenses, subsidies, profit, etc... in comparison, yes. However total revenue is total revenue. There are a few things from season to season that might cause a spike here and there but for the most part its a good comparison


Except for the fact that they're including donations in total revenues. Some AD's take the donations directly and actually own their facilities while other AD's have the foundation do that for them. It's really an apples to oranges comparison.
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