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re: The Best SEC Team of the Last 25 Seasons
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:13 am to 632627
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:13 am to 632627
What's better, winning 12 games by 20+ points on average and losing one game or winning 13 games by 19 points per game on average and losing none?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm It is such a hard decision!?!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm It is such a hard decision!?!
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:21 am to Ericvol2096
It depends on the SOS.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:29 am to 632627
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nobody is saying it was, but their offense definitely was.
You really can't compare the 2008 Florida and 2011 Alabama offenses. The 2008 Florida offense was built to be explosive and to score quickly. The 2011 Alabama offense was built to be a ground-and-pound, ball-control unit. Both offenses succeeded in doing what they were designed to do.
Alabama had the second best offense in the SEC in 2011, averaging around 430 yards per game. They also scored on average 35 points per game. These stats aren't too dissimilar from '08 Florida's (445 ypg/43 ppg).
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:38 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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2004 AU GOAT SEC team.
They were very good but I don't think they were even the best AU team of all time. I think the '83 Tigers had a better resume...they had the one loss but they played a much tougher schedule and had a very strong argument for #1 that year...
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:50 am to RollTide1987
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You really can't compare the 2008 Florida and 2011 Alabama offenses. The 2008 Florida offense was built to be explosive and to score quickly. The 2011 Alabama offense was built to be a ground-and-pound, ball-control unit. Both offenses succeeded in doing what they were designed to do.
Alabama had the second best offense in the SEC in 2011, averaging around 430 yards per game. They also scored on average 35 points per game. These stats aren't too dissimilar from '08 Florida's (445 ypg/43 ppg).
Exactly.
I still think 2011 Bama/LSU would own most on this list, if not all.
Those teams were in another stratosphere.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:50 am to LSU Patrick
LINK
This link rates TN's at 26th hardest in 1998 and UF's 8th in 1996.
Not enough difference to warrant a loss.
can't find any others yet
This link rates TN's at 26th hardest in 1998 and UF's 8th in 1996.
Not enough difference to warrant a loss.
can't find any others yet
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:59 am to Ericvol2096
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What's better, winning 12 games by 20+ points on average and losing one game or winning 13 games by 19 points per game on average and losing none?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm It is such a hard decision!?!
funny how you try to downplay florida's 30 point margin of victory average by saying 20+.
what were 98 UT's best wins? 3 point ot win at home vs florida and the 7 pt fiesta bowl win against fsu.
96 florida's best wins were the demolition at tennessee and the 32 point win against FSU.
Look at anything besides W/L and 96 Florida was a better team than 98 UT. Only difference was that UT team didn't have to play on the road against the #2 team in the country.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:08 am to 632627
TN won at Big East Champ Syracuse who had McNabb as QB.
TN beat top 5 UF and Top 10 8-0 Arkansas
TN thrashed UGA in Athens when they were top 15 or maybe even higher.
TN dominated a ranked Bama team.
TN beat the same FSU team that beat UF in the National title game when they were #2.
oh and they didn't lose a freaking game.
It really isn't a comparision.
1998 TN would have beat 1996 UF on a neutral field no question about it, I do think they would win in the Swamp and we'd of course win in Neyland.
TN beat top 5 UF and Top 10 8-0 Arkansas
TN thrashed UGA in Athens when they were top 15 or maybe even higher.
TN dominated a ranked Bama team.
TN beat the same FSU team that beat UF in the National title game when they were #2.
oh and they didn't lose a freaking game.
It really isn't a comparision.
1998 TN would have beat 1996 UF on a neutral field no question about it, I do think they would win in the Swamp and we'd of course win in Neyland.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 10:09 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:20 am to Ericvol2096
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This link rates TN's at 26th hardest in 1998 and UF's 8th in 1996.
Not enough difference to warrant a loss.
Fair enough. I don't put too much stock in MOV, especially for teams in the 80s and 90s. There were a handful of coaches (i.e. Spurrier and Bowden) who RUTS on a regular basis, while others were more likely to pull guys out in the 4th quarter.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:28 am to Ericvol2096
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TN beat the same FSU team that beat UF in the National title game when they were #2.
UF beat an undefeated #1 FSU. Tenn beat a one loss FSU team starting their back up qb who never started another game at FSU.
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1998 TN would have beat 1996 UF on a neutral field no question about it, I do think they would win in the Swamp and we'd of course win in Neyland.
pretty bold statement considering that you guys never beat wuerffel, and barely beat 98 florida in neyland. not to mention that spurrier owned fulmer.
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TN won at Big East Champ Syracuse who had McNabb as QB.
TN beat top 5 UF and Top 10 8-0 Arkansas
TN thrashed UGA in Athens when they were top 15 or maybe even higher.
TN dominated a ranked Bama team.
florida beat #16 auburn and #12 LSU in back to back weeks by a combined score of 107-23. They beat #11 alabama by 15 in the SECCG.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:39 am to 632627
But they lost a game 
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:56 am to Vols&Shaft83
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But they lost a game
the 3 best SEC teams I've ever seen all lost a game
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:01 am to 632627
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the 3 best SEC teams I've ever seen all lost a game
I agree with this.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:21 am to 632627
So Perfect Season < Imperfect Season?
Well, ok then
Well, ok then
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:23 am to Vols&Shaft83
What is a perfect season?
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:29 am to LSU Patrick
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What is a perfect season?
Undefeated and untied
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:30 am to Vols&Shaft83
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So Perfect Season < Imperfect Season?
No. But that doesn't mean a team with no losses in one year is better than a team with one loss in another.
As I pointed out before, the 1979 Alabama team finished with a perfect season but they were not as good as the team that came the year before. Why? Because the '78 team played three teams ranked in the Top 15 in their FIRST THREE GAMES and even played a decent team from a major conference, on the road, in their fifth game. Adding to that, they finished out the season playing (and beating) the #1 team in the nation in their bowl game. That's a pretty grueling schedule.
The '79 Alabama team played all of two ranked teams in the regular season. The SEC sucked balls that year. Looking at the two schedules, it's easy to see why one team finished undefeated and the other did not.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 11:33 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:33 am to RollTide1987
I understand that argument based on the glaring difference in strength of schedule. But that argument doesn't hold up when the difference in strength of schedule is nearly negligible.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:34 am to Vols&Shaft83
"With all due respect, uh, you demanded more of us. You demanded perfection. Now, I ain't saying that I'm perfect, 'cause I'm not. And I ain't gonna never be. None of us are. But we have won every single game we have played till now. So this team is perfect. We stepped out on that field that way tonight. And, uh, if it's all the same to you, Coach Boone, that's how we want to leave it."
-Julius Campbell
That's all the proof I need. Perfect>Imperfect
-Julius Campbell
That's all the proof I need. Perfect>Imperfect
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 11:36 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:38 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Undefeated and untied
While I agree that the '98 Tennessee team was one of the best SEC teams in history, it was a fluke play away from losing to Arkansas. It was far from "perfect."
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 11:39 am
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