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re: The best job in the SEC according to Nick Saban.........Georgia
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:31 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:31 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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I would add Texas A&M to that.
I definitely thought about it. The thing that detracts for them is I think they have a sort of branding disadvantage. Whether they like this or not, people will always look at Texas as the foremost program in that state. They've tried to manufacture a "cool" factor to their program with the facilities and Kevin Sumlin's style of play, but the [albeit very respectable] culture of the university ultimately hurts their recruiting efforts imo. It's just not the type of culture that attracts young people at a large scale these days.
ib4 anecdotes of cool players and national recruits
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 4:32 pm
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Nick just playing head games; he doesn't want Smart to come after his job when Saban falls off a little. 
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:32 pm to shotcaller1
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Typical classy coach speak. And still, some gump will still feel emotionally abused by it
All Bama all the time ATM. I'm as "gump" as they come, and I whole-heartedly agree with him... Georgia is an excellent school, with fertile recruiting grounds, and would be monstrous with the right coach... I for one am hoping that Kirby is hugely successful and having Georgia as a powerhouse only makes the conference(as a whole) better...
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:32 pm to SlowEasyConfident
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Great recruiter. But with everyone on the same playing field when it comes to facilities/tradition of a school like Bama, I'm not sure he's even in the top 5 in college football today
Sounds good
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:34 pm to lsupride87
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Florida, UGA, LSU, and Alabama are pretty much interchangeable, and would succeed at an equal level given the right coach. The problem is there are usually 1 to maybe 3 coaches a generation that could maximize any one schools potential.
Agreed. And I feel like LSU just missed out three times.
We had this generations in Saban. But he had the NFL itch he just had to scratch, and Bama got lucky Rich Rod said no
Our second miss was Spurrier. Everyone knows the story we passed on Spurrier for Archer
And the third
Bo Rein
To be successful at all those programs, you have to be an a-hole. The fans and the boosters will steer the ship unless they get called out. Les has been successful, but he really hasn't taken them to the next level, because he is generally a nice guy. Spurrier and Meyers didn't take any shite off the fans and Administration. Saban has the Boosters acting like trained frustrated circus animals. Richt was just too nice to get them over the hump.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Of course it's the best job. According to you all, Richt under achieved year in and year out, but was paid millions and millions without concern for 15 years.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It is all huge luck between LSU, Bama, UF, and UGA going forward. It will come down to who guesses correctly on the right coach.
Back in the day, Bama had an advantage over everyone else because they cared more and worked harder for it. They were willing to spend more money and do whatever it took to be successful at football. Hell, LSU nickel and dimed coaches until Saban
Now, I think that advantage has disappeared for Bama as everyone is willing to do whatever it takes as there is so much money involved. Bama has won the last few years as the got Saban. However, remember luck was involved. Bama wanted Rich Rod
So I think going forward, the four schools I listed will be the top dog depending on who gets the right coach
Disclaimer for Aubbie, UT, and A&M
UT-Im sorry, I think it will be difficult for yall as your instate recruiting is garbage. It isnt like it use to be where you could steal recruits as easily on a national level
Aubbie- Yall are up and down in nature. I see yall continuing to do so
A&M- One day, you could be in the group of 4. However, you need to prove it. shite, the potential is there but until yall do something worth a shite, I cant include you
Back in the day, Bama had an advantage over everyone else because they cared more and worked harder for it. They were willing to spend more money and do whatever it took to be successful at football. Hell, LSU nickel and dimed coaches until Saban
Now, I think that advantage has disappeared for Bama as everyone is willing to do whatever it takes as there is so much money involved. Bama has won the last few years as the got Saban. However, remember luck was involved. Bama wanted Rich Rod
So I think going forward, the four schools I listed will be the top dog depending on who gets the right coach
Disclaimer for Aubbie, UT, and A&M
UT-Im sorry, I think it will be difficult for yall as your instate recruiting is garbage. It isnt like it use to be where you could steal recruits as easily on a national level
Aubbie- Yall are up and down in nature. I see yall continuing to do so
A&M- One day, you could be in the group of 4. However, you need to prove it. shite, the potential is there but until yall do something worth a shite, I cant include you
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:38 pm to IT_Dawg
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Richt under achieved year in and year out, but was paid millions and millions without concern for 15 years.
Spot on
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:45 pm to lsupride87
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Aubbie- Yall are up and down in nature. I see yall continuing to do so
Auburn is in the unique position based on their location. AU could be consistently a top team if they recruit well withing a 200 mile radius. AUs problem has been the administration and the established PTB (similar to a lot of SEC Schools). They have gone the cheap route over most of their history. If AU could get the right coach, they can be a constant contender.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:53 pm to SlowEasyConfident
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Great recruiter. But with everyone on the same playing field when it comes to facilities/tradition of a school like Bama, I'm not sure he's even in the top 5 in college football today
Post of the day.
I wonder if he'll say the same about Dabo when Bama hires him in a few years.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:54 pm to CCTider
I think the winner could be LSU if the timing works out with Herman. However, he is a wildcard as he is young and may have the NFL itch
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:56 pm to Irons Puppet
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They have gone the cheap route over most of their history
Huh?Jay Jacobs spends money like a drunken sailor.How many coaches are still getting bought out.Nobody pulls the trigger faster than the Aubbies.
You have no idea what cheap is until you have Greg McGarity as your AD.We were one of the last big 6 to hire administrative assistants for recruiting and also the last to build a indoor facility.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Virtually no in-state competition and a major metro in Atlanta. Georgia probably does edge out LSU in terms of recruiting advantages.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:05 pm to SlowEasyConfident
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Great recruiter. But with everyone on the same playing field when it comes to facilities/tradition of a school like Bama, I'm not sure he's even in the top 5 in college football today
I guess we can replace him with another "great recruiter" in Dabo, when the time comes.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:08 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:And Jay Jacobs just got a contact extension.
Auburn is in the unique position based on their location. AU could be consistently a top team if they recruit well withing a 200 mile radius. AUs problem has been the administration and the established PTB (similar to a lot of SEC Schools). They have gone the cheap route over most of their history. If AU could get the right coach, they can be a constant contender.
Auburn is paying out the arse in coaching salaries and has been for a while now and they've paid competitive salaries for this conference. Why the hell they are dead arse last in the Big 3 men's sports in the last decade is a riddle no one can answer. Because Tubs, Chizik, Malzhan, Lebo, Barbee, Pearl, Pawlowski, Golloway, Thompson, etc. made competitive salaries with the rest of the conference coaches when they were at AU.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:09 pm to RD Dawg
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Huh?Jay Jacobs spends money like a drunken sailor.How many coaches are still getting bought out.Nobody pulls the trigger faster than the Aubbies.
You have no idea what cheap is until you have Greg McGarity as your AD.We were one of the last big 6 to hire administrative assistants for recruiting and also the last to build a indoor facility.
The spending is done after the bargain coach wins, then a big contract extension is given. Over the term of the contract and the buyout, the amount AU spends is on par with most programs. In AUs case it is always back-ended.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
UGA AD McGarity: "DAMN I recruited the wrong Alabama coach!!"
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:12 pm to SlowEasyConfident
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he couldn't believe it when Richt was fired and then called the Georgia job the best in the conference when they have underachieved for many years.
Maybe that's precisely why it's the best job. They have excellent facilities, recruiting, etc., yet have not won the titles that they probably should have won.
UGA fans would be thrilled with a SEC championship or at least getting to Atlanta in a consistent basis. The expectations are much higher at Bama, LSU, Florida, and maybe even Auburn.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:16 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:You make it sound like all Auburn should have done over the last decade is throw loads of money on the coaching staff and that would have somehow been able to pull the AU Big 3 sports up out of the SEC cellar?
The spending is done after the bargain coach wins, then a big contract extension is given. Over the term of the contract and the buyout, the amount AU spends is on par with most programs. In AUs case it is always back-ended.
Have y'all seriously had a string of 10-12 coaches in the Big 3 men's sports over the last 10 yrs that were hampered from fielding a winning program because of their salary?
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:19 pm to Sid E Walker
quote:The expectations are higher at those schools because once you build a beast you have to be able to feed it. You build up a fan base to expect championships and then you give them one, anything less is a disappointment. I blame Nick Saban for this current mind set.
Maybe that's precisely why it's the best job. They have excellent facilities, recruiting, etc., yet have not won the titles that they probably should have won.
UGA fans would be thrilled with a SEC championship or at least getting to Atlanta in a consistent basis. The expectations are much higher at Bama, LSU, Florida, and maybe even Auburn.
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