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re: Serious question. No troll. Why did LSU Fans Have Confidence in Joe?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:09 am to cardboardboxer
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:09 am to cardboardboxer
Joe was pretty much handcuffed on both ends throughout this entire thing; by boosters and eventually by King Alexander.
I certainly don't think he handled it well, but he doesn't deserve all of the criticism that is coming his way. It's not all him.
I certainly don't think he handled it well, but he doesn't deserve all of the criticism that is coming his way. It's not all him.
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:13 am to Lou Pai
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LSU admin killed it on Fri/Sat, purportedly because FSU counter-offered.
That doesn't seem likely because FSU hasn't announced a raise for him yet and they would want to if that happened. I can believe Jimbo could have been coming, I can't believe the deal being called off came down to Jimbo's payscale. Because of the leak he was pressured to come out on with a statement for FSU fans, and he really didn't dither when given a chance to.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:15 am to BayouBengals03
Regarding Joe, I'm worried about two things:
1. He is afraid to cut ties with the clown next year if we go 9-3 due to this year's backlash
2. He gets replaced by a "yes" man by our idiot president
1. He is afraid to cut ties with the clown next year if we go 9-3 due to this year's backlash
2. He gets replaced by a "yes" man by our idiot president
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:19 am to BayouBengals03
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I certainly don't think he handled it well, but he doesn't deserve all of the criticism that is coming his way. It's not all him.
My whole question from day one of the possibility of Les Miles being fired is based on the confidence in Joe's actions for what he has been responsible for. This situation plus the Chavis situation show a pattern (there might be more I am missing) and eventually the buck stops with him.
I am not saying he needs to fall on the sword, I was just wondering what he has done for football to earn the trust of LSU fans in making the right post-Les hire. Maybe there is something, I don't know. SEC fans like myself see a limited part of the story. And right now the story is pretty fascinating seeing how Les felt like a dead man walking that entire game.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:20 am to cardboardboxer
Hasn't been announced yet, that's true. That's why I said "purportedly", that alleged detail is less certain. But the scenario I would envision is Sexton posturing for more money for Jimbo later in the week after "accepting" around Wednesday, and Alexander screaming "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!" after the media blitz. We will never know.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:22 am to BayouBengals03
For now, keeping Les was the right choice.
He may win 9 next year and get this thing back on track
He may win 9 next year and get this thing back on track
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:23 am to Old Sarge
You know I'm kidding with the 9 
Couldn't help myself
Couldn't help myself
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:48 am to cardboardboxer
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That doesn't seem likely because FSU hasn't announced a raise for him yet and they would want to if that happened.
I bet you'll see a raise quietly given to Jimbo soon.
I don't think it's about payscale either. I think the powers that be in Louisiana couldn't get their shite together, and the powers that be in Tallahassee sat back, smiled, and waited.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:51 am to cardboardboxer
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I am not saying he needs to fall on the sword, I was just wondering what he has done for football to earn the trust of LSU fans in making the right post-Les hire. Maybe there is something, I don't know. SEC fans like myself see a limited part of the story. And right now the story is pretty fascinating seeing how Les felt like a dead man walking that entire game.
It is a fascinating story, but your take is pretty accurate - there is almost none, and should be zero trust in Alleva's ability to hire a good coach. He wants the safe bet, a la Johnny Jones. It's a little unfair to compare Jimbo to him, but Jimbo is definitely the safe bet. We could talk about whether he's the right bet, but I already made my opinion clear on that and don't want to derail.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:51 am to cardboardboxer
How could you say with a straight face that ADs hire football coaches after the last 15 years worth of evidence?
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:32 am to cardboardboxer
I'm one person that wanted to keep Les, so I was thrilled. What I heard from some is that the boosters were 50/50 on Miles. When it was heard through channels that Jimbo wasn't coming they decided to stick with Les. Sounds plausible to me 
Miles may not be the best game day coach but I believe in his heart and mind every decision he makes it to better the team. People forget he has had terrible luck with some of his best players. Perriloux and Mathieu come to mind.
I believe his #1 goal is to give the players an opportunity to reach their dream , championships be damned and I'm ok with that.
Miles may not be the best game day coach but I believe in his heart and mind every decision he makes it to better the team. People forget he has had terrible luck with some of his best players. Perriloux and Mathieu come to mind.
I believe his #1 goal is to give the players an opportunity to reach their dream , championships be damned and I'm ok with that.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:18 am to Lou Pai
Fair Enough.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:31 am to cardboardboxer
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Why were so many LSU fans so confident in Joe making the right hire?
Anybody but Les is the right guy for some of the fan base sadly.
I like Les. Yes he has under performed compared to his teams recruiting. I would have been comfortable with changing directions if they had a homerun hire lined up. Hey if the donors want to spend 15 million, and they got their guy go for it. That said it needs to be like the Sopranos last episode not some leaked story weaselly BS
That said the chaos and complete lack of plan and execution is worse than Les in the last minute of a 1 score game.
Les cares about the University and won't embarrass us. The admin not so much
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:33 am to rantfan
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I'm one person that wanted to keep Les, so I was thrilled. What I heard from some is that the boosters were 50/50 on Miles. When it was heard through channels that Jimbo wasn't coming they decided to stick with Les. Sounds plausible to me
Miles may not be the best game day coach but I believe in his heart and mind every decision he makes it to better the team. People forget he has had terrible luck with some of his best players. Perriloux and Mathieu come to mind.
I believe his #1 goal is to give the players an opportunity to reach their dream , championships be damned and I'm ok with that.
Agreed he isn't coaching this like we are dealing with highly paid pros. He cares about the school and guards it reputation, and I think tries to protect these kids that we more less use.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:20 am to CBandits82
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TAF is full of power brokers. This thing was done until King killed it to avoid the media coverage about LSU spending 15 million on a buyout where as the academic side is hurting which is bullshite because the buyout would of been paid with private money.
Truth
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:31 am to WillyLoman
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TAF is full of power brokers. This thing was done until King killed it to avoid the media coverage about LSU spending 15 million on a buyout where as the academic side is hurting which is bullshite because the buyout would of been paid with private money.
Truth
This is the save face narrative they want you to believe I think.
They leaked it like they leaked the firing.
The Ad and Boosters handling of this became an embarrassment to the University and King had but one option.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:43 am to thelawnwranglers
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The Ad and Boosters handling of this became an embarrassment to the University and King had but one option.
So is Joe on the hot seat?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:03 am to cardboardboxer
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So is Joe on the hot seat?
should be if he leaked firing story.
honest answer we will never know what really happen. Decision makers know. not that they have a track record of doing the right thing.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:03 am to thelawnwranglers
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should be if he leaked firing story.
Seems like he should catch a little heat for how he handled the leak. I could be wrong though.
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