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re: Rates and total revenue for SECN
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:14 am to oman
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:14 am to oman
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Loving a decreasing number of football wins because you are in the SEC. That's fantastic for you guys and maybe it is true for Arkansas and the Missippis, but as a Texas and Stanford fan, I don't have the conference loyalty that you guys have.
Yes, 8 wins in the SEC is more entertaining than 10 wins in the Big 12-1-1-2+2. I know your fan base doesn't give two shits about beating up on Kansas and Iowa State every year, sorry.
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Certainly from a viewing standpoint, I'd love to get all Stanford and Texas content in a single portal or channel.
The LHN must be a godsend for you then. Too bad the rest of the nation doesn't agree.
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:27 am to schwartzy
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Wow, Texas should feel like a joke. Their shitty network spurred their rival to go to a better conference. Not to mention Arkansas made their offense look like a high school's
If they were group thinkers they likely would. Instead, they are probably learning the lessons that would come from being a pioneer in starting their own network, being the most valuable brand, and figuring out a way to get back to being relevant.
All this stuff is interesting, but Texas is putting out a shitty product on the field. So to most Texas fans, it's kind of background noise.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:28 am to Hugh McElroy
The SEC Network has been amazing for basketball and baseball. Love being able to watch the games out of state
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:32 am to Projectpat
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The LHN must be a godsend for you then. Too bad the rest of the nation doesn't agree.
I watch the LHN about an hour more than I watch the SEC or Big 10 networks and a few hours less than I watch the Pac12 network.
Like the other 300 channels on my cable network.
The LHN revenues are a line-item on a ledger in Austin.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:37 am to oman
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So to most Texas fans, it's kind of background noise.
Because they don't see the big picture.
Sure they love the idea of "Go to Hell OU," but what they don't get is a world where A&M and the rest of the SEC eats at OU's brand and talent base will hurt Texas too long term. Texas needs a strong partner or its the just a richer Boise St. OU wins have been what drove Texas to larger success during Mack Brown's career, that is the matchup people used to look to. If they go into a nosedive, there isn't a credible team on the schedule in the lean OOC years.
Texas loves to judge a coach by this year, while not realizing the poor guy had to raid second tier talent from Florida because events related to this "background noise" has taken away Texas's guaranteed access to the state's top talent. The playing field vs A&M will never be as unbalanced as it once was, and that means real long-term implications.
I mean I agree most college football fans (not just Texas fans) don't think about this stuff, but it matters. College football is chess, not checkers.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:37 am to Projectpat
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Yes, 8 wins in the SEC is more entertaining than 10 wins in the Big 12-1-1-2+2. I know your fan base doesn't give two shits about beating up on Kansas and Iowa State every year, sorry.
Dude, I am not arguing you loving losing in the SEC. I was simply pointing out that Old Sarge was wrong. You guys are losing more.
I'm happy for you that if the trend continues you still are going to suck at the tit of being SEC.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:42 am to LSU GrandDad
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looks like the Tejas network is a big failure. don't you just hate that?
they should rename it "la red de cuernos largos". they'd probably see a jump in ratings.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:42 am to Hugh McElroy
Can't decide if you posted this to give the SEC credit or to discredit your daddy (UT). I do know one thing, anything printed that puts UT in a negative light finds its way to the SECr by an A&M fan.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:44 am to Jabstep
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Can't decide if you posted this to give the SEC credit or to discredit your daddy (UT).
Has to be the former. Texas still gets paid more than any SEC team does for its TV appearances.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:46 am to cardboardboxer
OU must look at this stuff and facepalm bigtime.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:48 am to Numberwang
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OU must look at this stuff and facepalm bigtime.
Especially when they talked such a big game:
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(OU President) Boren said the bottom line is "I don't think OU is going to be a wallflower when all is said and done."
Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of cheaters IMHO.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:51 am to cardboardboxer
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Because they don't see the big picture.
Sure. Everyone in Austin doesn't see the big picture. That's why they didn't hire a new coach and that's why they are certainly not doing anything to prepare for the future.
The playing field was never unbalanced against A&M. A&M just was shitty in making it a balanced playing field. Nothing stopped Arkansas or SMU in the past, or OU or Baylor or TCU now from making it an equal or better playing field.
If A&M has such a huge chip on their shoulder that they will only enjoy success until they can talk accounting smack with Texas, it's not a changed environment in anything other than the minds of Aggies.
Texas doesn't need a "strong partner". Texas can do fine with strong partners and without strong partners. USC doesn't need Oregon or UCLA. USC just needs to win.
A&M couldn't win or make bucks in the Big12 consistently. Maybe it can win in the SEC and it looks like it can make money in the SEC. Good for them. If they actually win it's good for everyone in Texas, because it's competition.
For some strange reason, A&M couldn't "feel" competitive until they felt so spurned that they made a move. One day my wife will be like that and leave me when I push her too hard.
I'll survive.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:02 pm to Hugh McElroy
That foxsports article made me giggle. frick Texas
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:02 pm to oman
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Everyone in Austin doesn't see the big picture.
Some do:
LINK
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The playing field was never unbalanced against A&M. A&M just was shitty in making it a balanced playing field. Nothing stopped Arkansas or SMU in the past, or OU or Baylor or TCU now from making it an equal or better playing field.
The fact that you throw out TCU and Baylor shows you don't know what I am talking about in regards to the playing field. Wins in a few years under one coach aren't anything compared to an apparatus that pushes the best talent in your state in your direction. No matter how well TCU or Baylor does they apparently have a glass ceiling placed on the kind of talent they can get that is lower than Texas's FLOOR.
We were in that same boat, so we change our ceiling. That also change our floor as well.
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Texas doesn't need a "strong partner".
Iron sharpens iron.
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If they actually win it's good for everyone in Texas, because it's competition.
Actually it is bad for Texas, because it would increase the exposure of the SEC and allow non-Texas SEC programs to suck more talent out of the state. Our success could really bottom out a Big 12 that already has a talent (and reputation) deficiency.
Tech fans have a saying I like: "Their SEC move was good for them, but bad for the state of Texas." There is some truth in that.
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For some strange reason, A&M couldn't "feel" competitive until they felt so spurned that they made a move.
We tried to make the same move back when the SWC crumbled and couldn't because we didn't have the political cover. No matter whatever the LHN is or is not, it DID provide A&M the political cover we needed to go the SEC. It wasn't our core reason, but it was a convenient excuse.
No matter what happens to the LHN, it will always be loved by Aggies for what it did for us.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:14 pm to oman
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Texas doesn't need a "strong partner".
The need weak-sisters willing to play them for scraps.
Currently that includes:
OU
OSU
TCU
Baylor
ISU
WVU
KU
KSU
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:14 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Indeed, the biggest irony of the Longhorn Network is this: In deciding to create Its Own channel, Texas made ??much more money for two Big 12 Schools That left for the SEC - Texas A & M and Missouri - than it's going to make for itself . That's Because Both Texas A & M and Missouri stand to make much more money off the SEC Network than Texas will ever make off the Longhorn Network.
WOW. That's gotta sting
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:18 pm to boogiewoogie1978
If anyone wants to relive the glorious arse whooping page by glorious page, please grab a snack LINK
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:27 pm to BarkRuffalo
I just went to ShaggyBevo to view Texas response to this.
They still don't think they're at a disadvantage.
They still don't think they're at a disadvantage.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:31 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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I just went to ShaggyBevo to view Texas response to this.
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Fox is just jelly they didn't jump in before ESPN.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:00 pm to GoldenSombrero
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With the ubiquity of on-demand programming, sports is one of very few live-event advertising avenues left, and they've never been worth more.
quote:Same here - I have no patience for watching live TV outside of sports programming.
This is a good point. Sports programming is literally the only live TV I watch except for occasionally the news. Everything else is either recorded, and skip the commercials or on NetFlix.
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