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re: Rates and total revenue for SECN
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:17 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:17 pm to JesusQuintana
Problem is they have more than one now. TTech, Baylor, TCU all would raise political and legal holy heck if the horns tried to destroy the conference again
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:20 pm to Old Sarge
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Problem is they have more than one now. TTech, Baylor, TCU all would raise political and legal holy heck if the horns tried to destroy the conference again
Atleast one of them is going to go with Texas to the PAC. I wouldn't mind bringing in TCU to the SEC if they stay good. I would prefer 2 east coast teams like NCST and VT, but I could live TCU and WVU if we can't raid the ACC.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:23 pm to WeeWee
I don't think independence is a real option for them unless they can swing a Notre Dame deal from the ACC.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:27 pm to cardboardboxer
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I don't think independence is a real option for them unless they can swing a Notre Dame deal from the ACC.
I doubt that happens. The ACC just did that deal to keep FSU and Clemsom from jumping shite to the Big12 and to keep UVA and GT from jumping to the BIG.
Now if Texas is willing to put its olympic sports in the AAC or MWC then maybe, but I doubt they want to do that.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:28 pm to WeeWee
TCU is very small and private and doesn't have basketball, they just aren't big conference material. There is a reason no major conference ever offered them a sniff until the big 12 almost crumbled and was begging teams to consider them. That's even with their success on the football field in recent times.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:29 pm to Old Sarge
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TTech, Baylor, TCU all would raise political and legal holy heck if the horns tried to destroy the conference again
Yeah but Tech is growing at a fast rate while Baylor and TCU aren't. In ten years Texas plus Tech will have the power to pull it off together. Maybe by then TCU or Baylor sneaks a national title and is worthy of the ACC or something.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:31 pm to Old Sarge
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TCU is very small and private and doesn't have basketball, they just aren't big conference material. There is a reason no major conference ever offered them a sniff until the big 12 almost crumbled and was begging teams to consider them. That's even with their success on the football field in recent times.
They have more success than A&M and their girls are much better looking
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:41 pm to schwartzy
I didn't read past the second page so sorry if it's been mentioned but isn't Texas cleaning up getting all that money versus the sec splitting 14 ways?
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:44 pm to tween the hedges
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I didn't read past the second page so sorry if it's been mentioned but isn't Texas cleaning up getting all that money versus the sec splitting 14 ways?
IIRC Texas gets $20million/yr from the Big12 tv deal and a set $15million/yr from the LHN. So they get a total of $35 million/yr. So no they are not cleaining up compared to the SEC.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:12 pm to WeeWee
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They have more success than A&M
They have averaged 7.6 wins a season since joining the big 12 and that is with texass and Oklahoma suffering some of their worst seasons in 15 years
We have averaged 9.3 wins per season since joining the SEC in a division that has produced 1 Nat champ, 1 runner up to nat champ, and 1 playoff team.
But keep being bad at math, it's ok
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:15 pm to WeeWee
The LHN only actually pays around 8 million (you can google it, I may be a little off but not by much) to texass after ESPN deducts operating costs. And the athletic dept only gets half of that.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:16 pm to tween the hedges
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I didn't read past the second page so sorry if it's been mentioned but isn't Texas cleaning up getting all that money versus the sec splitting 14 ways?
Texas has one in market state. The SEC's footprint is much larger for the higher rates. The overall distribution total is more than three times as much.
Texas will probably make more next year, but I expect to outpace them by year 3 of the SEC Network.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:47 pm to WeeWee
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GOR is only for this tv contract. So they could leave in 2025 LINK. If they did they would take TT, OU and OSU with them.
I don't see the PAC willing to dilute their academic standards to take TT & OSU.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:52 pm to WeeWee
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IIRC Texas gets $20million/yr from the Big12 tv deal and a set $15million/yr from the LHN. So they get a total of $35 million/yr. So no they are not cleaining up compared to the SEC.
False. Everybody says they get $15 million a year from LHN, but they don't. From July 2012 to July 2013, Texas athletics received 3.9 million from ESPN. The school received 7.8 million, total. They don't really get $15 million per year from LHN, despite the press.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:00 pm to SEC. 593
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I don't see the PAC willing to dilute their academic standards to take TT & OSU.
Nor would the B1G.
When conference realignment happens at the end of these GORs it will be interesting. Maybe nothing will happen because the Big 12 is successful by then. Who knows?
The only sure thing is the future for the SEC looks bright, as it gets prime CBS exposure and ESPN exposure. And a ton of money.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:05 am to cardboardboxer
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I don't see the PAC willing to dilute their academic standards to take TT & OSU.
Nor would the B1G.
Well maybe if Rice stays decent in conference USA the PAC takes them with Texas. However, that is highly unlikely.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:21 am to WeeWee
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Well maybe if Rice stays decent in conference USA the PAC takes them with Texas. However, that is highly unlikely.
Rice doesn't help much politically. Texas needs political help. When we bailed out of the PAC move to pursue the SEC Baylor was able to really put the brakes on a PAC16:
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Honestly Texas might not mind staying put as long as the LHN gets an extension, which ESPN might do just to stop realignment (after every realignment the market rate they they pay for college sports goes up more than $15 million). It might just be easier for them to stay put if they taste a little success in the Big 12. Nothing there is really stopping them from being successful.
The X factor is Oklahoma. They tried to force Texas's hand to go to the PAC and failed. Right now they are locked in with a GOR and the fact that Oklahoma St. doesn't have a real landing place without them. But times are rough for OU as our brand rises, plus our move gave greater access to Texas talent by SEC West powers. This shift has forced them to recruit out of California instead of cherry picking in their backyard like Stoops did a decade ago. If things get bad enough for OU, and Okie St. loses T Boone and some political leverage, maybe they try to make a move to help restore their place in the pecking order. At first they didn't mind making less TV money than Texas, they are used to making less than Texas while still beating them. But when they are making less than Nebraska or Mizzou, and we are taking most of the recruits they really wanted out of Texas, then suddenly they might get desperate. OU doesn't have the academics for the B1G, and they are too far by themselves from the PAC. But a SEC invite stays on the table I bet, and even though I would hate to see them take it even I know that in ten years it might be the only chance their program has. Especially if they hire the wrong guy after Stoops.
If OU is the first mover, then things get interesting. Kansas will surely bolt too, and they are AAU so the B1G would take them for the Tier 3 content. Then Texas has to decide to either keep an even more pathetic conference together, or give in and let someone else be boss.
It will be interesting times.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:30 am to cardboardboxer
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If OU is the first mover, then things get interesting. Kansas will surely bolt too, and they are AAU so the B1G would take them for the Tier 3 content. Then Texas has to decide to either keep an even more pathetic conference together, or give in and let someone else be boss.
It will be interesting times.
Yes, the 2024-2026 window is when the next major round of conference realignment and we will see the 4 superconferences formed. It is going to be crazy.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:41 am to Old Sarge
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TCU is very small and private and doesn't have basketball
they are doing a $60 million renovation on their bball court as we speak brah
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 10:42 am
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