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re: Ole miss will get off with self imposed.

Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:43 am to
Posted by TSUNgummybear
In Denial
Member since Jan 2013
496 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:43 am to
I agree with you. Hell, I love being a smart arse when I can, and throw jabs too. That one though, was just too stupid for me I guess Bama gonna bama though
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:45 am to
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The punishments will be severe, and I am aware of this

Good to know

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I am not defending that you freaking idiot.

never said you were, but damn you sure are defensive for someone not defending.

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I simply corrected them on the numbers, and nothing else

Correct. And I elaborated on the numbers a bit. Wasn't necessarily directed at YOU, so much as at the TOPIC of Level 1s. Try not to take things so personally.

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you toothless inbred redneck

brilliant retort.
Posted by Rebelatheart42
Down South
Member since Sep 2016
862 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:56 am to
Time out lil bitch, I've called your arse out twice and both times you replied all you could do after me saying name the place, was spew garbage about lol at ole miss crap?? Then you come here after then, staying silent and calling a different reb out? That isn't how it works. You messed around and poked a sleeping "bear". I'm the laid back, knowing this crap isn't going to be good for our school poster. And actually get along with most dawgs.

And I'm not going anywhere. So before you start calling people out, which you never follow through with, go back and look at my offer. And if you do decide you want to, I'll be right here.

Anyways NCAA Stacccked, OM FUKKkD
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33085 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:58 am to
I doubt we get 2 year bowl ban from my understanding. It's more likely that we will lose more schollys and receive a larger fine
Posted by TSUNgummybear
In Denial
Member since Jan 2013
496 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:02 am to
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never said you were, but damn you sure are defensive for someone not defending.


Because I don't want to be put in the same category as Pank, Matthew25, and others that are defending we won't get hit severely, ok???????!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:14 am to
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I can sure as hell tell you that you wouldn't want them basically bribing players with immunity to give them dirt.


Once again, for the 10,000,000th time the NCAA has been granting immunity to players that give testimony since, well, forever.

Here is an example from 1988
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:16 am to
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I doubt we get 2 year bowl ban from my understanding


Nobody knows what will happen, but I'd bet on a 2 year bowl faster than I would significantly more scholarships.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:18 am to
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but I'd bet on a 2 year bowl faster than I would significantly more scholarships.


That's cool. We didn't go to a bowl last year and self imposed this year. That's a 2 year bowl ban in my book.

It does work that way, doesn't it?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17746 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:20 am to
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It does work that way, doesn't it?


Depends on how good your lawyer is
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:28 am to
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I honestly wouldn't doubt it with the way the NCAA has handled UNC and Baylor


"The way the NCAA has handled UNC" is pretty much exactly the way they've handled OM. They started an investigation, sent a NOA, found more stuff, amended the NOA, wash, rinse, repeat, and ended up with three letters - which naturally takes a long time.

In case you missed it, they had their hearing before the COI in August and are now doing the same as y'all - waiting for the hammer to fall. Since it hasn't fallen, nobody is in any position to say "how they handled UNC."

Baylor is a different animal. Like Penn State, the things they did fall in the Title IX and Criminal world. Unless there are alleged violations I've missed, the NCAA has really no business being involved at all. Briles' bunch doesn't need a show cause, they need jail sentences.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59504 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:31 am to
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This is a lie as Doug Buckles came on Bound's show and explained, but even if it were true it wouldn't make it ok.

What about Chris Spencer? Or the LB from USM Joseph Scott?
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8090 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:33 am to
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I've said from the beginning it's going to be a 3 year bowl ban (probably including 2017) and 4-5 scholarships per year for 5 years.


I'm thinking along the same lines except I think the NCAA will place a cap on the number of athletes OM can have on scholarship. Instead of 85 scholarship players the NCAA reduces the number down to 70 over 3 years or something like that.
Also think the NCAA will reduce the number of OV allowed and reduce the number of coaches allowed to go recruit.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:39 am to
I don't see much of anything that Ole Miss has done that would influence the NCAA to be lenient.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14187 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:39 am to
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SheaForHeisman Programs are going down and I don't like it one bit


Of course you don't OM is the school so dumb or arrogant tat they got caught.



Sorry little sister. You know we all love you.
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5374 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:45 am to
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What about Chris Spencer? Or the LB from USM Joseph Scott?


I never knew the names from 2003, but I just remember it coming out that an Ole Miss player and a USM player were the were the ones that got immunity of some kind. I didn't like it being used then, and I don't like it being used now, just to be on record.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:52 am to
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Leo is responsible for 4-5 level one's, therefore there would be 10-11 remaining

So even if by some miracle the COI decided to ignore the text from Barney (they won't), the texts/calls from the booster and his assistant (they won't), and throw out Lewis' testimony and remove those Level 1s (they won't), OM still has double digit level 1 violations.

Don't forget, you committed violations WHILE under investigation. You had no atmosphere of compliance and the NCAA said that your admin didn't rise to the level of "exemplary cooperation".

The hammer. It's going to hit you hard and it's going to hurt.



And they've already admitted to some of the level 1's involving Leo. How do they admit to those and still get them thrown out?
Posted by TonyMontana
Member since Jul 2017
1169 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:53 am to
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doubt we get 2 year bowl ban from my understanding. It's more likely that we will lose more schollys and receive a larger fine


I don't think "understanding" is the correct word. I think you meant wishful thinking.

Look, 3 programs on probation at once, and caught cheating DURING the investigation (noted in NCAA response), and admitting to paying a player $10k (in OM response) GUARANTEES loic and ftm.

A 2 year bowl ban should be the minimum expectation. My opinion is it will be 3. But my opinion is worth just as much as yours - which is not much.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:03 pm to
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I doubt we get 2 year bowl ban from my understanding.


Ohio State received a one-year bowl ban for their players trading memorabilia for tattoos and Tressel lying about it.

Now you have Ole Miss with many times the number of infractions, pretty much the entire coaching staff implicated in one way or another, a charge of LOIC (which will likely stick), infractions spanning multiple ADs and HCs, seemingly no compliance department to speak of, major infractions occurring during the course of the investigation, and no acknowledgement of cooperation during the ordeal.

Oh, and since the Ohio State case, the NCAA has changed their enforcement policies with an explicit desire to increase the penalties for rule breakers to shift the "risk-reward equation".

I would be surprised if the NCAA did not tack on a second year bowl ban. In fact, I wouldn't be totally blown away if OM got a three-year bowl ban. With the bowl bans and the show-causes, they will punish the school and people directly responsible. By allowing the kids to walk out the door, they won't be punishing the kids who had nothing to do with it.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:09 pm to
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I asked an honest question and this is how you respond. Can you be any more of the picture perfect typical redneck State fan? Go frick yourself you two bit piece of classless shite!


You have been portraying yourself as the resident expert for months yet have proven to be the most clueless sheep in the flock, sorry that hurts your little feelings.



Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:54 pm to
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act like we haven't been penalized. Two seasons down the drain, two recruiting classes down the drain, season ticket sales down the drain, and over 10 million dollars lost. The NCAA also proved they will take a rival player who didn't go to your school and weaponize him against you. What in the NOA makes you think OM needs to be hit harder than what's above? What above makes you not still fear the NCAA?


The businesses who built those condos and revitalized the area are the ones who will suffer the most. The school will keep going and eventually recover as a football team.

Some of those new businesses may bankrupt
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 12:55 pm
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