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re: Ole miss will get off with self imposed.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:21 pm to MaroonNation
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:21 pm to MaroonNation
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Please find anything I have ever posted on ED. I'll ban bet you on that. Can the same be said about you on the OMSpirit?
Okay maybe SPS but you are still an a-hole. As for the Spirit, I don't pay for forums.
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:47 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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thank God after this year I won't be around it anymore.
We finally agree!!
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:49 pm to UAtide11
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I would be surprised if the NCAA did not tack on a second year bowl ban. In fact, I wouldn't be totally blown away if OM got a three-year bowl ban. With the bowl bans and the show-causes, they will punish the school and people directly responsible. By allowing the kids to walk out the door, they won't be punishing the kids who had nothing to do with it.
I think that is a pretty intelligent, non-biased assertion.
In my opinion, a 3rd year bowl ban doesn't really matter. The 2nd year bowl ban allowing players to transfer without penalty is the (near) death blow.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:50 pm to RazorBroncs
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This years Egg Bowl might end with some dead folks if this thread is any indication. Gonna be brutal.
What will happen is OM will fabricate stories, in an attempt to frame our boosters and coaching staff. Their slime is of the worst scum. I know some of these people.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 8:08 pm to OliverQueen81
That would give every team the license to ratchet up the cheating to an even higher level.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 8:48 pm to AmericanGI
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Expect Merkel to supoena transcript of the COI hearing.
Unless RR adds the NCAA as a defendant they would tell him to shove his subpoena right up his arse.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 8:53 pm to JustGetItRight
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Unless RR adds the NCAA as a defendant they would tell him to shove his subpoena right up his arse.
They can't do shite to a court order.....you really think a sitting judge is going to protect the sanctity of the NCAA. If you want a perfect example look at Coach McNairs case....that one is going to really hurt them when it finally runs its course!
Posted on 9/13/17 at 8:57 pm to JustGetItRight
quote:He left a bunch of place holder John Does, so it wouldn't be too difficult to add them.
Unless RR adds the NCAA as a defendant they would tell him to shove his subpoena right up his arse.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:12 pm to TonyMontana
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thank God after this year I won't be around it anymore.
We finally agree!!
He could do us all a favor and hurry up and go.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:15 pm to OliverQueen81
I remember Ole Miss got hit in the 90's, but I'm not sure exactly when that was. But it took them roughly two decades to return to national relevance.
And, though I don't know the infractions from back then, surely they're not as bad as they are now? If it took them twenty years to recover from that, I can't see how it's going to be any better now.
I think they were insane by trying to be transparent or whatever. That never works with the NCAA. Any school that isn't a premiere program is going to get blasted -- so why dig your own grave? If someone is going to shoot you, why would you load the gun for them?
Not sure why they didn't fight them tooth and nail.
And, though I don't know the infractions from back then, surely they're not as bad as they are now? If it took them twenty years to recover from that, I can't see how it's going to be any better now.
I think they were insane by trying to be transparent or whatever. That never works with the NCAA. Any school that isn't a premiere program is going to get blasted -- so why dig your own grave? If someone is going to shoot you, why would you load the gun for them?
Not sure why they didn't fight them tooth and nail.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 6:47 am to PantherCity
quote:That is not totally true but I am sure it had some effect. Brewer was fired as result of the probation. Joe Lee Dunn was an interim to complete the year. They brought in Tuberville and although the cupboard was bare, he made Ole Miss into a pretty good team. After Tuberville, though Cutcliffe came in and continued with Tuberville players and had a couple of good years (Eli and Co.) and then it was Orgeron and we all know that story. No one can really say what it would have been like without the probation and Brewer might have last a few more years.
I remember Ole Miss got hit in the 90's, but I'm not sure exactly when that was. But it took them roughly two decades to return to national relevance.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 7:30 am to Diamondawg
Brewer got hit with 2 separate probations.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:16 am to PantherCity
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I think they were insane by trying to be transparent
They weren't transparent. OM's response to the NOA claimed Exemplary Cooperation. The Enforcement Staff hammered home the point that OM was not only non-compliant and non-cooperative, they continued to brazenly cheat with investigators on campus. My sig is a direct quote from OMs response to the 2nd NOA
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:19 am to ABearsFanNMS
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At what point does it say in there that they had transcripts of these phone calls.....and it never mentioned anything other than text messages recommending RR. So nothing nefarious really right there to be collaborated
Talk about moving goal posts. You said "it doesn't say that they had texts and emails from Farrar that Lewis's testimony was supposed to corroborate".
And those two excerpts say that is EXACTLY what they had and what they did. But now you want transcripts of phone calls? Get real, this isn't The Wire.
You say "texts messages recommending RR". When in actuality it was an assistant AD hooking up recruits with boosters. You cannot do that.
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Wonder who the person is that gave them this tip?
...they had the texts. Nobody had to tip them off, they had it.
I get what you're doing. You're trying to claim it's some big conspiracy. You want everyone to believe that a rival fan was digging up dirt and turning it over to the NCCA, then a rival player told a bunch of lies to back up the dirt the fan had found.
What it really is. I mean, what actually happened regardless of who said what and who was here or there at a certain time, was that your entire coaching staff and athletic department was blatantly breaking NCAA rules. And they did it over and over again with no signs of slowing down. When the NCAA came asking questions about it, they didn't tell them the truth.
You've been repeatedly lied to by the OM community. The coaches, the athletic department, the beat writers, the message board bloggers, all of them. They've lied to the fanbase over and over and over again.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:28 am to UAtide11
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You've been repeatedly lied to by the OM community. The coaches, the athletic department, the beat writers, the message board bloggers, all of them. They've lied to the fanbase over and over and over again.
I've been trumpeting this for months now. I honestly don't care what OM the Program did. Cheat away. The travesty has been how loyal fans have been lied to over and over and over. The one's who still make excuses are just addicts who haven't bottomed out. Yet.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:54 am to OliverQueen81
If you go by new NCAA matrix, they get off probation in ~350 years.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:55 am to AmericanGI
The thought now is that John Doe #1 in the Rebel Rags case may well be Scott Strickland.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:56 am to Reservoir dawg
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What will happen is OM will fabricate stories, in an attempt to frame our boosters and coaching staff.
Your poor, innocent boosters.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:58 am to AmericanGI
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The thought now is that John Doe #1 in the Rebel Rags case may well be Scott Strickland.
I really want to believe that you have sincere faith in that laughingstock of a lawsuit, but nobody can be that gullible.
Keep tossing a shiny hook in the water, though. Some fellow true-believers will nibble
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:03 am to GnashRebel
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Your poor, innocent boosters
It's a shame that salt-of-the-earth people like MSU boosters get mud on them when standing too close.
We can handle it though. Broad shoulders, solid values, etc, etc
The sad part is when you see cases like what's happening in Houston. The NCAA is delaying payments to needy families until they can verify the legalities. Know why they have to be such strident a-holes? Because cheaters like OM will take advantages and cut corners . Sad, sad, sad
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