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re: Most Academically Improved SEC Schools
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:14 am to msudawg1200
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:14 am to msudawg1200
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They always call us a hick,redneck school
You ARE a hick, redneck school!
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:16 am to LegendOfCobb
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I always knew Vandy to be the "Harvard of the South."
Vanderbilt or Duke. Emory is a fine school as well, but I think those two get the nod over Emory.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:17 am to RazorbackKing
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5. Florida #49 (+5)
6. Georgia #60 (+3)
11. Vanderbilt #17
Big 3
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 9:18 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:17 am to MaroonNation
Actually he's your second Rhodes Scholar ever. But it's been 103 years between them.
Nevertheless, congratulations to him and State for the recognition!
Nevertheless, congratulations to him and State for the recognition!
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:18 am to Forkbeard3777
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:19 am to Dawg in Beaumont
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Public Ivy League of the South=UF, UGA, UNC, Univ. of Texas
No Virginia? That's a better school than the four listed.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 9:20 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:19 am to RazorbackKing
USNWR is not an academic ranking.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:19 am to RazorbackKing
MSU and Ole Miss are so much better than these types of numbers generally indicate, it's ridiculous...
We have had Court-Mandated low admission standards(Ayers Case) -- which lets in students that don't belong -- that promptly fall out when they can't handle the workload. Low admission standards + high dropout rate = double whammy to "college rankings"...
That said, there are rumors that the terms set forth in the Ayers case are finally crumbling, and that MSU and OM will be free to raise admission standards in the near future.
We have had Court-Mandated low admission standards(Ayers Case) -- which lets in students that don't belong -- that promptly fall out when they can't handle the workload. Low admission standards + high dropout rate = double whammy to "college rankings"...
That said, there are rumors that the terms set forth in the Ayers case are finally crumbling, and that MSU and OM will be free to raise admission standards in the near future.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:20 am to Forkbeard3777
UVA is outstanding. The publication wiki drew that page from has them listed as "Mid-Atlantic"
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:21 am to engie
Shut up engie. You go to the worst school in the conference. Everyone knows it. Stop trying to make yourself feel better.
Just messing bro. Don't track me down and hurt me.
Just messing bro. Don't track me down and hurt me.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 9:28 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:26 am to DingDongEddieStrong
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You ARE a hick, redneck school!
And yet USNews ranks State higher. What does that say about Ole Miss
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:26 am to engie
Agree about MSU and OM.
GaTech is also very much underrated due to its STEM focus. Student happiness is also a big factor in the rankings as well as (as you mentioned) drop out rates. Lot's of kids historically flunk out of GaTech due to the rigorous curriculum. I would imagine this impacts schools like A&M and Purdue to name two.
In contrast, all students get A's at the Ivy's/Duke, etc. and thus don't flunk out and are "happy" and satisfied with their college experience.
I don't have a problem with the rankings, it's just the slavish devotion to them by colleges and some applicants.
GaTech is also very much underrated due to its STEM focus. Student happiness is also a big factor in the rankings as well as (as you mentioned) drop out rates. Lot's of kids historically flunk out of GaTech due to the rigorous curriculum. I would imagine this impacts schools like A&M and Purdue to name two.
In contrast, all students get A's at the Ivy's/Duke, etc. and thus don't flunk out and are "happy" and satisfied with their college experience.
I don't have a problem with the rankings, it's just the slavish devotion to them by colleges and some applicants.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:48 am to schlow mo
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And yet USNews ranks State higher. What does that say about Ole Miss?
You know in their own little dream world they have numerous national and academic titles. All kidding aside both MSU and OM have similar academic status.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 11:45 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:52 am to msudawg1200
I'm sure all schools are fine. If you have no desire to leave your state or the Southeast, it really doesn't matter.
I will say this, from a "national" standpoint, it's recognized that Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, Missouri, Georgia, and Florida are the so called "cream of the crop" of the SEC. However, it is recognized as well that Alabama has made strong strides.
But in the end, if you want to stay in your particular area, who cares? I'm sure Atlanta, Nashville, Birmingham, New Orleans, Houston, Dallas and so on are very well represented by all of the SEC schools.
Obviously I want my children to attend the University of Michigan, but I'm also aware that we have a 35% acceptance rate. I wouldn't have any qualms if they decided on attending a SEC school.
I will say this, from a "national" standpoint, it's recognized that Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, Missouri, Georgia, and Florida are the so called "cream of the crop" of the SEC. However, it is recognized as well that Alabama has made strong strides.
But in the end, if you want to stay in your particular area, who cares? I'm sure Atlanta, Nashville, Birmingham, New Orleans, Houston, Dallas and so on are very well represented by all of the SEC schools.
Obviously I want my children to attend the University of Michigan, but I'm also aware that we have a 35% acceptance rate. I wouldn't have any qualms if they decided on attending a SEC school.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:06 am to Forkbeard3777
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I will say this, from a "national" standpoint, it's recognized that Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, Georgia, and Florida are the so called "cream of the crop" of the SEC. However, it is recognized as well that Alabama has made strong strides.
Missouri is an excellent school that is just as good
They are in the distinguised AAU list and have an excellent medical and journalism school and a strong national reputation.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:09 am to Dawgnational
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Missouri is an excellent school that is just as good
Definitely. I've encountered many Missouri grads in the Chicago workforce. I completely forgot about them.
Sorry Mizzou.Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:14 am to engie
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That said, there are rumors that the terms set forth in the Ayers case are finally crumbling, and that MSU and OM will be free to raise admission standards in the near future.
Yep, the HBCUs have to get to a certain level of white enrollment by 2017. They aren't even close. Jackson State opened an adult campus less than 20 miles from their main campus in Madison in hopes of getting more white students. Didn't work.
The whites in the Jackson metro that are working on graduate degrees either do it online, at MC, or at Belhaven. They aren't going to JSU. Plus, the Tulane campus in Madison is just not doing that well - they don't offer degrees that people want.
When the restrictions of the Ayers case are killed, I hope MSU and Ole Miss raise their standards to the rest of their peers in the SEC. No way a kid with a 2.0 high school GPA and a 16 should be able to get into an SEC university.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:23 am to Forkbeard3777
LSU is a national brand in engineering, construction management, most business majors (especially internal auditing), and architecture. Everything else is fine, as long as you're looking to stay in the Southeast region.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:26 am to RazorbackKing
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RazorbackKing
I'm beginning to think you're an alter
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:30 am to tigerbait2010
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LSU is a national brand in engineering, construction management
Behind A&M.
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