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re: Manziel files lawsuit citing copyright infringement of name Johnny Football
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:25 am to vuvuzela
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:25 am to vuvuzela
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Now, Unfortunately players in the NCAA do not get paid royalties when their numbers and names are sold for millions. How many #3 alabama jersey's were sold simply because Trent Richardson was a beast (which he worked his arse off for) yet never received a red cent for. That's the real problem.
However, in this case, Manziel doesn't want to play by the rules that everyone else has (who can blame him) and now he's suing over a nickname. Perhaps something good can come from this but the way he is handling his fame is prickish at best.
Dude you seriously do not know what your talking about.....Players names do not get sold, the only replica of individual players which can be sold is their number, i.e. replica jerseys and the video game example. Maybe you dont understand the full extent as to why he is doing this because a lot of the merchandise being produced is mainly in Texas...but there are tons of products that have been and are being produced that are not legal from several standpoints. They not only replicate the Johnny Football nickname, which the Manziel family is in the process of claiming, but Johnny's first and last name, likeness, etc.
The bylaws of the NCAA absolutely state if that if businesses (I'm not talking about the schools) profit from certain likeness of individual athlete they will lose their eligability. It is up to that individual, themselves, to prevent this from happening.
I have already seen lots of things, that if someone wanted to be a dick about it, could rule him ineligable. However, since he is proactively defending it he is on the up and up.
So point being you people are saying he's a douche because he's not letting some people sell things off his likness and I'm telling you that its a huge issue, recognized by the school in the fall.
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:25 am to Bench McElroy
A&M fans are just defending him because Manziel is their QB.
This move is a bit petty. I understand why he did it though I guess. I can't wait for this guy's spotlight moment to end. He is making himself look like an a-hole this offseason.
This move is a bit petty. I understand why he did it though I guess. I can't wait for this guy's spotlight moment to end. He is making himself look like an a-hole this offseason.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:26 am to Jobu93
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This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 10:28 am
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:27 am to Choctaw
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The fact that he trademarked after some local sportswriter gave it to him made him a douche, the fact that he's suing makes him a super douche, the fact that he's taking only online classes because he's just too damn popular and awesome makes him an uber douche.
ETA: I'm not sure what level of douche the JMAN2 Enterprises makes. That may be some new level we have not yet witnessed.
Summa douche?
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:28 am to RattletrapDawg
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I believe Bama will curb stomp TAMU this year. IMO.
Okay. I believe the Gamecocks will beat the Dawgs for the fourth time in a row this year.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:29 am to Reno2007
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Dude you seriously do not know what your talking about.....Players names do not get sold, the only replica of individual players which can be sold is their number, i.e. replica jerseys and the video game example.
hey dumbass. Did you see where I said how many #3 jerseys were sold?
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It is up to that individual, themselves, to prevent this from happening.
Show me the bylaw that states this.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:30 am to RattletrapDawg
Before I say this, I know that at least one arse-To-Mouth elitist prick is going to throw out a retort about how little knowledge of IP law people on this board have...to them, I say "fair enough". Keep in mind however, there are thousands of things that people on here know more about than you. Having knowledge of one thing does not make one intellectually superior on the whole. I digress...
The main point I meant to make here is this.
Johnny Unitas was, is, will ever be, Johnny Football. Therefore, it is reasonable to say that the family of Johnny Unitas could file against Manziel and his - excuse me for asking what a college "student" athlete is doing with one of these without being an NCAA violation magnet - corporation on the grounds that the name and the trademark rightfully reside with the Unitas family and Manziel has done no more than usurp the name.
On the other hand...if he wants to trademark the name Johnny fricking Football...ive no problem with that.
The main point I meant to make here is this.
Johnny Unitas was, is, will ever be, Johnny Football. Therefore, it is reasonable to say that the family of Johnny Unitas could file against Manziel and his - excuse me for asking what a college "student" athlete is doing with one of these without being an NCAA violation magnet - corporation on the grounds that the name and the trademark rightfully reside with the Unitas family and Manziel has done no more than usurp the name.
On the other hand...if he wants to trademark the name Johnny fricking Football...ive no problem with that.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:31 am to GetCocky11
I'm not defending nor criticizing anything. To be honest, I couldn't care less what any player/family/school does in terms of an athlete's name/copyright decisions.
That being said, I wouldn't disagree with you that those posters who support a team other than A&M will most likely always hate on anything Manziel-related; conversely, most Ags will support JFF-centric moves.
That being said, I wouldn't disagree with you that those posters who support a team other than A&M will most likely always hate on anything Manziel-related; conversely, most Ags will support JFF-centric moves.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:32 am to ipodking
quote:Isn't he using his amateur student-athlete status to make money? That's as major infraction, isn't it?
JMAN2 Enterprises?!?
And, let me get this straight - if he sells merchandise related to his status as aTm's QB, that's an NCAA violation, but if he sues someone for doing the exact same thing, the NCAA has no problem with him keeping the forfeited proceeds the court may award him?
That makes as much sense as a football bat.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:35 am to Bench McElroy
Bama has a history of nicknames for their players and coaches. I don't remember any of them suing.
"Bear" Bryant; "Snake" Stabler; "Broadway Joe" or "Joe Willie" Namath, "Deuce" Palmer, "Italian Stallion" Musso, "Mount Cody".
Older players - "Bully" Van de Graaff; "Football Freddie" Sington; "Wu" Winslett; Johnny "Hurri" Cain; "Dixie" Howell; "Tarzan" White; John “Hog” Hannah; "The Wizard of Oz," Newsome; Cornelius "Biscuit" Bennett.
And presently, Eddie "Circle Button" Lacy.
All this suing is going to take the fun out of football.
"Bear" Bryant; "Snake" Stabler; "Broadway Joe" or "Joe Willie" Namath, "Deuce" Palmer, "Italian Stallion" Musso, "Mount Cody".
Older players - "Bully" Van de Graaff; "Football Freddie" Sington; "Wu" Winslett; Johnny "Hurri" Cain; "Dixie" Howell; "Tarzan" White; John “Hog” Hannah; "The Wizard of Oz," Newsome; Cornelius "Biscuit" Bennett.
And presently, Eddie "Circle Button" Lacy.
All this suing is going to take the fun out of football.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:41 am to HarryBalzack
One thing seems to be lost in all of this and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it. Find me a McCarron jersey or a Mettenberger jersey or a Murray jersey or a T-shirt that has any of those player's names on it for sale from somewhere other than Cafe Press or similar site. They're all very popular players with large fanbases and it should be easy, right? No? Why is that?
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:41 am to DawgHolliday
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Before I say this, I know that at least one arse-To-Mouth elitist prick is going to throw out a retort about how little knowledge of IP law people on this board have...to them, I say "fair enough". Keep in mind however, there are thousands of things that people on here know more about than you. Having knowledge of one thing does not make one intellectually superior on the whole. I digress...
Giving that disclaimer or asking questions is what a reasonable person would do and doesn't deserve the prick routine. However, people who immediately come in throwing punches when they obviously have no idea what they're talking about deserve everything that comes to them. Fair?
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excuse me for asking what a college "student" athlete is doing with one of these without being an NCAA violation magnet -
It was made so that the Manziel family wasn't personally liable for any trademark related litigation.
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Johnny Unitas was, is, will ever be, Johnny Football. Therefore, it is reasonable to say that the family of Johnny Unitas could file against Manziel
A quick search about Johnny U doesn't come up with anything about that being his nickname. Beyond that, it's fair to say that unless he had a trademark filed, even if he did have that as a common law trademark, he's lost it by now.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 10:58 am
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:51 am to Projectpat
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Johnny Unitas was, is, will ever be, Johnny Football.
Which Johnny do you think these shirts refer to?
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:54 am to RBWilliams8
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It's the school AND his family setting the precedent (school acted first) why is this so hard for you to understand. His family has $$, thats bit the point.
It's the school AND his family setting the precedent (school acted first) why is this so hard for you to understand. His family has $$, thats bit the point.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:54 am to Projectpat
Johnny Douchebag = Paris Hilton. That's hot.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:56 am to Alahunter
That's low. At least JFF does something well.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:57 am to Jobu93
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:03 am to vuvuzela
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hey dumbass. Did you see where I said how many #3 jerseys were sold?
Yeah I also saw where your dumbass said that players names are sold....keep up retard.
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Show me the bylaw that states this.
Why dont you go frick yourself and look it up on your own, you really think the NCAA has people standing by to help athletes in cases like this?
Again, you dont know what your talking about....calling me a dumbass doesnt make you smarter
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:05 am to finestfirst79
I know which Johnny the shirts represent. I dont, however see his real name on them anywhere so that part of the argument, which someone made earlier, is void.
Besides which, do you folks honestly believe you arent defending him so vigorously because he is your player? If he was someone elses boy, you would join the party and admit his familys actions are arse-hattery in its purist form.
Besides which, do you folks honestly believe you arent defending him so vigorously because he is your player? If he was someone elses boy, you would join the party and admit his familys actions are arse-hattery in its purist form.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:05 am to Jobu93
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You've got to defend the trademark or else you lose it. Don't have a problem.
What exactly did he trademark? he didn't come up with the nickname himself so he really shouldn't so worked up over this. Kinda of a douchy move on his part.
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