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re: Manziel files lawsuit citing copyright infringement of name Johnny Football

Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:10 am to
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:10 am to
aTm fans, try to look at it from another perspective. What would you think if say Alabama's qb did this? How about an LSU player? Looks kind of dumb.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44098 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:12 am to
See my post above.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10522 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:13 am to
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aTm fans, try to look at it from another perspective. What would you think if say Alabama's qb did this? How about an LSU player? Looks kind of dumb.


Oh my god, you're right. IP law completely changes when it involves someone else!
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:14 am to
as long as HE isn't profiting off his likeness, then there are no eligibilty issues.
Posted by BhamBengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
2476 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:14 am to
Dear god I hope LSU and Bama break that kid next year. What a douchebag
Posted by JJxvi
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
368 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:17 am to
The only douchebags here are people who try to make money off of someone else's identity without that persons endorsement of the product. These people are clearly selling Johnny Manziel merchandise, often times using and infringing on A&M trademarks and graphical identity (maroon, white, #2s etc) to leave NO DOUBT that they are selling a Johnny Manziel/Texas A&M product and not some other use of Johnny Football.

You can't do this, the tards that sold honey badger Mathieu shirts were even more cowardly because they were able to semi hide their use of honey badger by claiming they were exploiting an Internet pop culture meme that had nothing to do with LSU. I also have little doubt that LSU did try to get them to cease making those.

If you go around and use a celebrity identity to sell shirts without permission and they catch wind of it and you dont stop, you are getting sued. Madonna will sue you. The Rock would sue you. The NBA would sue your arse for using player references or colors combined with city names. Nike would sue you for putting their logo on your product. In each of these cases the product association implies an endorsement of the product. Johnny Manziel does not endorse or want those shirts out there.

Now I know a lot of you backwoods types would love to be able to get rich off'n that innernet money any way you can, no matter who'n you had to exploit, but that doesn't make you idiots right.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 11:18 am
Posted by Reno2007
San Marcos, Texas
Member since Jul 2012
90 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:18 am to
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as long as HE isn't profiting off his likeness, then there are no eligibilty issues


FALSE
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:19 am to
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What would you think if say Alabama's qb did this? How about an LSU player?


I don't know. Won't ever know, because there aren't any McCarron or Mettenberger T-shirts or jerseys being sold (outside of sites like Cafe Press, which is impossible to control). Again, why is that?
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7239 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:21 am to
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You would know all about jealousy

And you would know all about dependence and following.
Posted by Legend13
Driving a titleist
Member since Nov 2011
4079 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:22 am to
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What a douche.


And no I haven't bashed or looked down on the kid until now.

quote:

Dude's a joke. He'll never make in the NFL. He's just trying to rack it up while he can.
I agree!
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2143 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:22 am to
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I have already seen lots of things, that if someone wanted to be a dick about it, could rule him ineligable. However, since he is proactively defending it he is on the up and up.


I've been waiting for the hammer to drop. Jealousy, pettiness, being flat out scared of JFF, and nothing more will be the causes if some spineless douchelord gets him ruled ineligible or atleast attempts to do so. Maybe i'm paranoid.

As for the comments about A&M fans blindly defending him, if the guy played for LSU or Texas, etc., i wouldn't give a flying frick about what he does in his free time or where he takes his classes, just like i don't care now. What i DO care about is him and A&M staying on point re: NCAA compliance and being proactive about it.

Hopefully A&M does well again on the field this season and off the field in building up the A&M brand and minimizing the JFF media hype.
Posted by OnCampusTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
689 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:23 am to
Reminds me of when the NFL came in and sued people making whodat shirts. Notice to Johnny, the fans are who made Johnny Football, pick your battles and don't go after a fricking CHIVE ripoff shirt. Sure its infringement and you have the right to sue, but to do so really just seems petty and hurts your brand more than anything... Also you look like of total douche.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 11:26 am
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:27 am to
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IP law completely changes when it involves someone else!



IP law is a moot point. He doesnt Have to do this, yet he did. If another player/school was doing the same, everyone would be hating on them too. The only people agreeing with this decision are aTm fans for the most part. General consensus = stupid move by JFF and aTm
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8338 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:27 am to
Could this be a way around paying a player and getting away with it? Booster finds someone to earn a bunch of money off an athlete's name, then athlete gets $$$ from court legally
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:27 am to
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Bc it's America. And it's just a nickname.

Honey badger wasn't suing people for making "honey badger don't care" t-shirts. It is just petty and a douche move.


:kige:
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:28 am to
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The lawsuit asks the court to award damages for the unlawful sale of the "Johnny Football" T-shirts. Texas A&M's compliance office recently received a ruling from the NCAA that a student-athlete can keep financial earnings as a result of a legal action.


Hmm. So, Manziell can't make money off the sale of merchandise with his name on it, but if someone else does, he can sue them for the ill-gotten profits and keep the money? I wonder if Manziell and Vaughn cooked this up together? Sounds like a nice loophole in the NCAA rules.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:29 am to
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Could this be a way around paying a player and getting away with it? Booster finds someone to earn a bunch of money off an athlete's name, then athlete gets $$$ from court legally



Bingo! LSUsuperfresh beat me to it.
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:30 am to
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I also have little doubt that LSU did try to get them to cease making those.


LSU made it clear that the shirts could not have LSU or the players name on the shirt. Other than that, they said they were fine.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10522 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:30 am to
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Honey badger wasn't suing people for making "honey badger don't care" t-shirts.


You're right, but LSU took legal action.

LSU issuing cease and desist letters over honey badger
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18291 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:31 am to
Didn't the fans invent this name? I don't believe that Manziel invented the name to begin with, so is he stealing it?
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