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re: Looking deeper at wins over 'ranked' foes
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:56 am to craigbiggio
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:56 am to craigbiggio
And now he's gone and hired the DC from the defending national champs so...
He also hired the 2nd best DC in school history and a guy who won the OC of the Year award less than 2 years ago.
Didn't yalls DC in 08 and 09 suck dick?
He also hired the 2nd best DC in school history and a guy who won the OC of the Year award less than 2 years ago.
Didn't yalls DC in 08 and 09 suck dick?
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:56 am to TutHillTiger
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TutHillTiger
Looking deeper at wins over 'ranked' foes
ahhhemmm
Game set match
Alabama and Vanderbilt have played the fewest games against ranked opponents in the final polls over the past three seasons, each with 12 games
THREE seasons ??? Probably the last TEN.........
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:58 am to WG_Dawg
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Didn't yalls DCs in 08 and 09 suck dick?
Fixed and yes
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:59 am to craigbiggio
Wasn't there a combo name for them like mallaveto or something?
I guess you see my point..having a bad DC for a few years doesn't make the HC bad. Especially when they have a track record of having some great coordinators as well in their tenure.
I guess you see my point..having a bad DC for a few years doesn't make the HC bad. Especially when they have a track record of having some great coordinators as well in their tenure.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:01 am to Roger Klarvin
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Kevin Sumlin is 20 years younger than Spurrier, his best coaching days are in front of him
This could be true, but I am not so sure.
He just lost 2 top 10 picks and a Heisman winner. I don't know if it is going to get any better than that for him.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:01 am to gamecocks22
Yea it isn't like he's piling on recruiting talent or anything...
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:02 am to WG_Dawg
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mallaveto
Yes.
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I guess you see my point..having a bad DC for a few years doesn't make the HC bad. Especially when they have a track record of having some great coordinators as well in their tenure.
Yeah man it's all good, my post was a joke anyway. I don't blame you for going off, I know what it's like to have to defend your coach at every turn
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:03 am to gamecocks22
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Kevin Sumlin is 20 years younger than Spurrier, his best coaching days are in front of him
Possibly, but who knows? Larry coker went undefeated and won a natty in his first year with miami, doesn't necessarily mean that was going to be the SOP every year. He actually wasn't even a very good coach but it's not hard to win when you've got the talent he had.
Sumlin has been in this league 2 years, both of which were QB'd by a Heisman trophy winner. First year they didn't win their division, 2nd year they lost 4 games. I don't think you can accurately forecase how good sumlin is just yet.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:06 am to Gradual_Stroke
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Yea it isn't like he's piling on recruiting talent or anything...
What does that guarantee? Plenty of teams pile on in recruiting and don't do anything. I figured you would know this since, you know...Texas did not have anyone drafted this year.
It's not like JFF was some prize recruit at the time. Evans was a 3*. The notion that recruiting means everything is false.
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:06 am to WG_Dawg
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Sumlin has been in this league 2 years, both of which were QB'd by a Heisman trophy winner. First year they didn't win their division, 2nd year they lost 4 games. I don't think you can accurately forecase how good sumlin is just yet.
Doesn't matter, has a highly ranked recruiting class...
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:07 am to craigbiggio
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I don't blame you for going off
This board amuses me with what is considered "going off" or being "butthurt" sometimes
I don't think I went off on anything, just trying to throw some facts in here.Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:08 am to Gradual_Stroke
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Yea it isn't like he's piling on recruiting talent or anything...
FSU, Miami, and Notre Dame all did poorly for many years with great "recruiting talent."
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:08 am to WG_Dawg
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Larry coker went undefeated and won a natty in his first year with miami
Terry Bowden started off 20-0. Gotta give it time.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:11 am to NoBovineIntervention
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Terry Bowden started off 20-0
20-0-1
Posted on 5/15/14 at 9:53 am to LSUNV
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What I am saying is if you look at top ten opponents we have played over the last three years, we ain't scared to play tough games. We even had a couple back out of talks trying to set it up
There are always variables and mitigating circumstances. For instance, a reverse at an exact opposite case ... let's say one team beats another team who is very highly ranked early in the season, but during the course of the season said highly ranked team suffers some catastrophic injuries and six or seven key positions ...
The fact remains that they were very good at the time they were beaten, but a series of unfortunate circumstances made them less-so as the season progressed.
Do you penalize the winning team for having beaten a very good team prior to all the injuries?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:03 am to kilo
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No, the question is how can a man coach up his team to that great record against incredible competition and shite the bed at some point in his season against teams he should beat to, in essence, ruin his teams chances at post season glory.
It's a question you probably could have asked differently, but IMHO the answer to your question is that sometimes Spurrier just brain farts.
Against Auburn a few years ago - at lot of it had to do with Ellis Johnson not coaching a good game as DC, but still, Spurrier rode Lattimore too much and he definitely left Garcia in the game too long.
Year before that at Kentucky, same thing basically. Ellis Johnson did not have his defense prepared and Spurrier rode Lattimore until he got hurt and then looked like a deer in the headlights after it happened.
Last year vs Tennessee ... that wasn't so much Spurrier as it was his players and scheduling. It was a trap game, players let down, Spurrier was very frustrated and you could see it on his face. Tennessee got a lot of breaks. Tennessee wins on a miracle pass really. Those kind of games just happen sometimes.
Spurrier has had to overcome some scheduling issues with the SEC that, perhaps, others in the East have not had to endure ... that's not really an excuse but fact. My reason for evoking that is that there are residual reverberating effects caused by scheduling at times ... but I think all of that has been handled, although we'll see when the schedules come-out for 2015.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:11 am to pivey14
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14. Mississippi State: 0-15, .000 (0-9)
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Lulz
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10. Ole Miss: 2-15, .118 (0-9)
You should be so proud.
well lets see....one team had it's best three-year span in history...and the other team had it's single worst season in history and a new coaching hire included in it's three year span.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:16 am to scrooster
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Do you penalize the winning team for having beaten a very good team prior to all the injuries?
Speaking from experience on this matter, UNC was ranked pretty high preseason then dropped after 7 starters were suspended, but still think you are not understanding my point.
The fact is in that same three year time span, we played and won against more teams that finished in the top ten. Hell if you counted what they were at the time we played them everybody's resume would look a lot better.If we had scheduled a few teams more that we tried and really wanted to our schedule would look different. Anyway the point is we tried to schedule more top teams just didn't work out that way.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:21 am to Roger Klarvin
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Kevin Sumlin is 20 years younger than Spurrier, his best coaching days are in front of him. How many more years is Spurrier going to give USC?
Clock's ticking
Through 2017 ... then he moves into an advisory/consultant role and his Son probably takes over the reigns.
He'll probably still be here by the time Hyman is looking for Sumlin's replacement.
Age has nothing to do with anything. The clock is ticking for everyone in one way or the other.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:23 am to IAmReality
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Yeah and how many losses to scrub teams does Alabama have over the past 6 seasons?
You lost to a team Quarterbacked by Jordan Jefferson, twice. So 2.
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