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re: Looking deeper at wins over 'ranked' foes
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:03 am to Cockopotamus
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:03 am to Cockopotamus
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Its happened twice, so I don't think theres a trend or reason for concern. And UT is the only really really bad one. Although we definitely should have beat Auburn in 2011, they did still finish 8-5 which isn't terrible.
And considering we only had 1 double digit win season before 2011, it certainly hasn't "cost us a season". Finishing 11-2 and in the top 10 is certainly nothing to sneeze at, no matter the school.
The OBC has brought your program to another level. Thats good. You all are in a prime region to take advantage of recruiting along the fertile boundary with the ACC.
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frick, I don't know. Maybe HBC hit the Coors too hard the night before thinking he had a cake walk the next day?
Like I said, there isn't an underlying trend. I provided some of the specifics for the Auburn and UT games. Some people like the throw in the UF game in 2012 because we played so poorly, and that was due to the physical toll of the LSU game the week before and a lot of the team was dealing with the flu leading up to and during the game.
Thanks for being honest here. Im actually curious.
The South Carolina teams the last 4 years have been great. Championship teams that have suffered a hiccup. My question was and is; Do you blame the OBC? It reminds me a lot of the St Louis Cardinals and Tony Larussa. Had great teams and had some moments of "WTF" that lead to the team faltering down the stretch.
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And I didn't say it was wide open, I said it was more open, meaning that there aren't teams entrenched at the top like there were in the 90s and 2000s with UF, UT and UGA.
You mean like South Carolina at #4 and Mizzou at #5. Dont sell yourself short.
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No kidding
Just cause you took a shot...
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:05 am to MIZ_COU
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At some point we may have to take a breath and just admit we both had pretty good teams last year.
Problem is that many of us admitted that long ago and have tried to move on...
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:09 am to kilo
I'm not saying permanently or anything. The reality is we both finished in the top five and won our bowl games against tough teams. The rest of the SEC should have tried that.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:12 am to MIZ_COU
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I'm not saying permanently or anything. The reality is we both finished in the top five and won our bowl games against tough teams.
This is the truth.
South Carolina and Mizzou both represented the SEC well.
The East is "down" because Mizzou and South Carolina are at the top. Thats what always makes me laugh.
#4 and #5 to finish the season...yea, down year indeed.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:15 am to kilo
Christ what is it with you ppl!!!
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:16 am to kilo
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Thanks for being honest here. Im actually curious.
Just to be clear, the Coors comment was sarcastic.
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My question was and is; Do you blame the OBC?
No. I think he should have replaced Garcia against Auburn and tried to run out the clock against UT instead of trying to throw for first downs, but I don't put the blame solely on HBC. We still beat UT unless Marquez North makes that miracle of a catch.
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You mean like South Carolina at #4 and Mizzou at #5. Dont sell yourself short.
I mean like UF, UT and UGA consistently finishing at the top of the division. We've finished second or third the past 3 years, UGA has gone from 1st to 3rd, UF went from 2nd to whatever they finshed at and yall came up from below 3rd to win last year.
UF and UT had a strangle hold on the division until 02 when UGA got in the mix. Its not like that any more, its much more fluid
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:19 am to scrooster
Yeah and how many losses to scrub teams does Alabama have over the past 6 seasons?
The answer is 0.
Getting up for big games is only part of what makes a championship team.
Being able to beat who you're supposed to beat is another big part and that's what South Carolina needs to learn.
The answer is 0.
Getting up for big games is only part of what makes a championship team.
Being able to beat who you're supposed to beat is another big part and that's what South Carolina needs to learn.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:19 am to CarolinaCock
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Christ what is it with you ppl!!!
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:21 am to IAmReality
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Getting up for big games is only part of what makes a championship team.
It is funny that Bama is know for playing the best against the best competition though, when in reality USC out performs them by a wide margin in that regard
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:21 am to kilo
Also, 3 seasons is great for recent history and SCar should be proud to have had such a good run.
But Alabama's run extends 6 years. Crunch the number on the last 6 years and you'll see Alabama at #1 (also known as order restored).
But Alabama's run extends 6 years. Crunch the number on the last 6 years and you'll see Alabama at #1 (also known as order restored).
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:24 am to Cockopotamus
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It is funny that Bama is know for playing the best against the best competition though, when in reality USC out performs them by a wide margin in that regard
Uh what? A wide margin is like 1-2 games? Sample size isn't big enough bro.
As I just said, Alabama's run extends to the past 6 seasons.
Not only does Alabama not lose to crap teams, it normally takes a top 5 national championship contender type team to beat them under Saban, and even then they normally don't.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:28 am to Cockopotamus
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Just to be clear, the Coors comment was sarcastic.
I got that.
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No. I think he should have replaced Garcia against Auburn and tried to run out the clock against UT instead of trying to throw for first downs, but I don't put the blame solely on HBC. We still beat UT unless Marquez North makes that miracle of a catch.
Yep, that catch, what are you going to do, that was like an act of god.
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I mean like UF, UT and UGA consistently finishing at the top of the division. We've finished second or third the past 3 years, UGA has gone from 1st to 3rd, UF went from 2nd to whatever they finshed at and yall came up from below 3rd to win last year.
Embrace the change. The one thing that I thought was liberating coming from the Big 12 and shaking all those "norms". Wiping the slate clean. You know, Nebraska and Oklahoma always kicking our arse. frick that.
Its South Carolina and Mizzou's turn at the top of the SEC East. Dont sell either program short. We both belong there no matter how many Florida or Georgia fans say otherwise.
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Cockopotamus
Im calling a truce man. Lets both move on.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 2:08 am to kilo
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Its South Carolina and Mizzou's turn at the top of the SEC East. Dont sell either program short. We both belong there no matter how many Florida or Georgia fans say otherwise.
I'm not say either didn't belong. I'm just saying the positioning at the top in the East is more fluid than it was before 2010
Posted on 5/15/14 at 2:25 am to Cockopotamus
I think USC fans have started to take Spurrier for granted. Compare their program now to what it was before he arrived, and compare his accomplishments at USC to what he did before he arrived. It seems clear to me what's going on here.
I maintain this is a case of a top 5-10 coach of all-time working a small miracle with a historically low end program. The odds of Spurrier being the sole catalyst behind this run are far greater than a sleeping giant being awoken which will carry on long after he has left.
I maintain this is a case of a top 5-10 coach of all-time working a small miracle with a historically low end program. The odds of Spurrier being the sole catalyst behind this run are far greater than a sleeping giant being awoken which will carry on long after he has left.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 2:32 am to IAmReality
quote:SC in 2010 was pretty mediocre.
Yeah and how many losses to scrub teams does Alabama have over the past 6 seasons?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:00 am to Roger Klarvin
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I think USC fans have started to take Spurrier for granted
wut.
why?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:03 am to Cockopotamus
Because more and more Im reading about how great your program is when the story should always remain what a great coach he is to drag a bottom feeder off the bottom. The odds of USC remaining relevant after he leaves are very low just based on precedent.
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 3:04 am
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:27 am to Roger Klarvin
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Because more and more Im reading about how great your program is when the story should always remain what a great coach he is to drag a bottom feeder off the bottom. The odds of USC remaining relevant after he leaves are very low just based on precedent.
Yall are paying Sumlin 5 million a year after a 4 loss season. You should probably worry about aTm's relevancy in the present and not USC's relevancy in the future
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:35 am to Cockopotamus
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Yall are paying Sumlin 5 million a year after a 4 loss season. You should probably worry about aTm's relevancy in the present and not USC's relevancy in the future
According to some A&M fans 5 million ain't shite. Said their school would give 6 million to just watch two monkeys frick.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:36 am to Cockopotamus
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