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Johnny Manziel:Under-the-radar future superstar?

Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:19 pm
Yes, a freshman with only 2 games under his belt, still very early. But watching him against UF and seeing his stats from SMU game he's impressive. A bit impetuous and gambling he looked to me to have all the talent in the world plus a natural leader on the field. Fast with a good arm and quick release he can thrive in the SEC with appropriate supporting personnel. Again it's early and I might be wrong but he may become a Heisman caliber QB from the conference in a year or two.

CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
43.....66...467...65.2....7.08...42.....4....0...5.....144.6
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:21 pm to
Unfortunately, yes..he will be a good one
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:23 pm to
I like exciting football...except against LSU.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:33 pm to
I sure hope so, he still has a lot of maturing to do as far as pocket presence and things like that
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:36 pm to
I wasn't impressed with his passing in our game but the little fricker can run some for sure.

I'm sure he'll progress in his passing.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:38 pm to
Has he thrown the deep ball at all this year, thus far?
Posted by Clutch Cargo
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:38 pm to
I've only seen him vs. UF, but I was extremely impressed with him considering he's a freshman starting his first game. From what I've seen so far, I'd say, yes, a superstar in the making. aTm fans should be ecstatic about his future. The kid can run like the wind, has a cannon for an arm and did not commit any turnovers against a good, aggressive SEC defense.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Has he thrown the deep ball at all this year, thus far?


We went deep a fair amount against SMU
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

I wasn't impressed with his passing in our game

Yes but think about it: His last game was in HS. Now he's playing the Gators. It's just a guess on my part, we'll see how it goes.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

has a cannon for an arm


I haven't seen this based on our game and his HS film. I've seen a bunch of floaters.

Didn't get to see the SMU game.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:42 pm to
He'll be a good 'un if he can stay healthy. All that running around makes me nervous but damn he's fun to watch.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:46 pm to
LINK

At 0:50, 1:50, and 2:17
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:46 pm to
It was only against SMU but he was absolutely scary several times in the game. Most of all he started throwing downfield but also really used the legs. He can throw the ball across his body on the run with accuracy like very few human beings can. Here are the highlights of the game, I'd just put it about :50 seconds in and watch until 3:45 if you want to see why they call him JFF:

SMU Highlights
Posted by Bose Ikard
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:46 pm to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LZC79vs5fw

He is a very unusual QB. It is EXTREMELY hard to say how he is going to progess, but there is good reason to think he'll be a superstar. There is also reason to temper those expectations. He is extremely unorthodox.

Check out the play at the 2:20 mark. He routinely throws off the wrong foot. He did it at least three times in the SMU game.
This post was edited on 9/17/12 at 1:50 pm
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:47 pm to
He doesn't have a cannon. Arm isn't that strong but what worries me the most is his accuracy. We'll see if it improves. He is fun to watch, but I'm not sure how much running around he'll be able to do with defenses that have fast LBs and ends. We'll see.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:51 pm to
There were some nice passes in there.

Separate issue: Can June Jones get SMU turned around? They looked pretty bad.
Posted by Bose Ikard
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:53 pm to
SMU is terrible. Worst June Jones coached team I have ever seen.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Separate issue: Can June Jones get SMU turned around? They looked pretty bad.


They look very bad. IMO it all starts with their QB unfortunately. I feel bad for Garrett Gilbert at this point, he just isn't a college QB.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:54 pm to
The talent is definitely there I would just like to see him hang in the pocket and go through his progressions a little more. UF was smart in the first game with their 2nd half adjustments. The Gator fans around me couldn't understand why UF started holding their D-Line back in the 2nd half but to that point he hadn't shown the ability to throw down field, so why blitz him and give him the ability to slip away like the first half. Not saying we would have won, but I really would have liked to seen that Florida game again, had we not had our first game postponed.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

but I'm not sure how much running around he'll be able to do with defenses that have fast LBs and ends.

Right, he's not going to outrun Mingo and he's not going to beat the Tide's D on his own. That's why the qualifier 'with appropriate personnel' in the OP. But either way I like exciting football and am glad he is in the conference, and wish him well (except against LSU).
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